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  1. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    Posts like this show how effective propaganda is by the PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX. While the death penalty is more than 99.9% cheaper than holding someone in prison for 50 years as the OP stated, you're adamant that it is not true, confusing the NATURAL with the MANMADE. Consider this bit of...
  2. Wrangler

    UK Sikh restaurant owner arrested after sign said he wouldn't serve Halal...more craziness in the UK

    Muslims have pride in their regressive culture. Westerners have only shame for their culture. The bacon story is a rare exception.
  3. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    I agree it is immoral. To claim it is more costly is false, base on a rigged American process that doesn’t inherently apply.
  4. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    Huh? Seems you’re confusing cost with value. Cost is what you pay; value is what you get. Brakes cost $50; the value is immeasurable.
  5. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    Yes, they’re not.
  6. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    No one said anything about substandard. Did you read about the reference to Trump’s many expedited appeals?
  7. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    Exactly! This thread is about the morality of the death penalty, not embracing the existing PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX schemes to keep the expensive PROCESS going. As Christians, we should have discernment rregarding such propaganda. If execution was morally justified, the cost of AVOIDING it...
  8. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    Again. Cost of executing someone. Cost of a system. Not the same. The capital punishment system to AVOID capital punishment is corrupt. See the OP referencing the Prison Industrial Complex.
  9. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    I am fully aware of the corrupt PROCESS in an attempt to AVOID capital punishment. I simply reject the claim that avoidance cost is the cost of executing someone. A debate maxim is that if you accept the terms of your opponent, you’ve already lost the argument. So, I reject the implied premise...
  10. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    I‘m differentiating from the cost of capital punishment from the prohibitive PROCESS we’ve chosen to AVOID capital punishment.
  11. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    Really, all that is a rationalization, a corruption in the cost analysis. We are speaking different languages. I’m talking about the cost of capital punishment. You are quoting the cost of ‘death row.’ Not the same.
  12. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    No, it’s not as the OP explained. You think a bullet costs more than housing someone in security for 50 years? Bless your heart. It’s pure propaganda by the Prison Industrial Complex to claim killing someone is more expensive than housing them for decades.
  13. Wrangler

    Do you guys support Trump's war on Iran right now?

    This proves NATO alliance no longer exists in practice. I pray Trump gets out of such entangling alliances. They want help with Ukraine but can't help us with Iran? https://www.newsmax.com/
  14. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    You must know this is untrue. See the OP.
  15. Wrangler

    Death Penalty: All in Favor? All Opposed?

    It's not about guaranteeing anything. We do the best we can and there is more justice now than in Jesus' day. One measure of this is wealth generation. Used to be wealth was thought in terms of resources. More people = strain on resources. However, people are the wealth. More people = more...
  16. Wrangler

    Do you guys support Trump's war on Iran right now?

    Nope. Iran has been killing Americans for decades. See USS Cole. See Marine barracks in Beirut. What good is the NATO alliance if they don't honor their commitment to help when we're attacked?
  17. Wrangler

    Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

    @Christian Soldier, I haven't been following this thread closely but I want you to consider something. Another poster asked where all this animosity is coming from and now I am asking that as well. @Aunty Jane doesn't have main stream beliefs but what she does have is courtesy in her speech and...
  18. Wrangler

    UK Sikh restaurant owner arrested after sign said he wouldn't serve Halal...more craziness in the UK

    What was he arrested for? Really, many of these threads of yours could be combined into one with the heading, "More Evidence Great Britain Fell to Islam." :confused
  19. Wrangler

    God is against Israel and the US lapdog

    It's almost like you don't want to name those evil terrorists who killed innocent Israeli's on Oct 7. You have no credibility.