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  1. TribulationSigns

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    Simple test? No you simple do not know what you are talking about. Exact day and time?! What an absurd argument! Where does Scripture teach that we must identify the "exact day and hour of a prophetic event" before we can understand its fulfillment? You have invented another rule that...
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    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Who are the 144,000? Are they literal a144,000 Jewish men? Or the symbolic number for ALL believers from righteous Abel, to Zecharias, to those in our day? That is the question. John says to the Elder in the vision, Sir, you know! And the Elder begins to tell John who they are. God wants the...
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    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    I agree with your assessment. Matthew 24:22 clearly indicates that God's elect will still be alive on earth during the Great Tribulation. Otherwise, there would be no reason for Christ to shorten those days for their sake. Christ said, "But for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."...
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    Stop Believing the "Any Moment" Myth

    Indeed! And that is precisely why Scripture warns of the strong delusion associated with the great falling away (2 Thessalonians 2:3, 9–12). But you are overlooking the prophetic order! Satan was bound so that he should deceive the nations no more until the appointed time (Revelation 20:1–3)...
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    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    Oh, really? So the persecution of Christians between AD 30 and 70 was THE GREATEST TRIBULATION THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN OR EVER WILL SEE? Seriously? LOL! Nobody is denying that the early Christians suffered terrible persecution. But where do Acts 12:1–3 or 1 Thessalonians 2:14–16 declare that...
  6. TribulationSigns

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    Well, congratulations! At least we agree on ONE thing: The "HE" who confirms the covenant with many in Daniel 9:27 is JESUS CHRIST! But unfortunately, your interpretation of the timing of the seventieth week is a complete mess. Where does Scripture say that Christ confirmed the covenant at His...
  7. TribulationSigns

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    Says WHO? You or God? Where does Scripture explicitly declare that Matthew 24:21 was fulfilled between AD 66 and 70? Or is that simply your own interpretation being presented as biblical fact? Christ said, "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to...
  8. TribulationSigns

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    You are confusing historical events with the spiritual fulfillment of biblical prophecy. Just because people historically fled Jerusalem when Roman armies approached does NOT automatically prove that Christ's Olivet Discourse was fulfilled by those events. History does not interpret Scripture...
  9. TribulationSigns

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    Calling my interpretation “extreme spiritualizing” does not establish that yours is correct. You still need to demonstrate from Scripture where my interpretation fails. When Jesus spoke of His body as a temple, His listeners, like you, assumed He meant the physical building (John 2:19–21)...
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    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Now you are focus on the image instead of the message I wrote? Interesting.
  11. TribulationSigns

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Humm... Let review what I wrote earlier: "No, that is not how this works. I asked you a direct question because I came across your post and wanted to determine whether you actually understand the Scripture YOU chose to quote. Quoting a Bible verse is one thing; understanding its meaning and...
  12. TribulationSigns

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    I will add something that proves your position: HISTORICAL DEATH TOLLS: WAS AD 70 THE GREATEST TRIBULATION IN HUMAN HISTORY? Jesus said in Matthew 24:21 (KJV): “For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.” For...
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    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    LOL! First of all, who mentioned popes? I never claimed to be a pope, nor do I need anyone's authority to ask questions about Scripture. What an unusual way to enter a biblical discussion! Now, regarding your message, you make some extraordinary claims about an “all-inclusive god,” an AI...
  14. TribulationSigns

    Did Jesus return around 70 AD?

    LOL! You accuse amillennialists of missing the picture, but instead of explaining how Revelation supports your position, you resort to claiming that others are deceived by Satan. That's quite an argument! And the “everything is spiritual” objection? Amillennialism does not mean everything is...
  15. TribulationSigns

    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Funny how that works. Asking someone to explain the Scripture she quoted is now classified as condescension and insults when she can't—or won't—answer the questions. Civil discussion doesn't mean nobody is allowed to ask challenging questions or disagree with your interpretation. And iron...
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    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Oh, please! So now the issue is no longer the biblical question, but whether I deserved to be put on ignore? :laughing: I understand perfectly well that she disliked my approach. That does NOT magically answer the questions I asked about Revelation 3:10. Acknowledging that someone dislikes...
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    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    LOL!!! :Laughingoutloud: I knew it! When the questions get too uncomfortable to answer, out comes the “victim card,” followed by the dramatic exit. “I’m placing you on ignore” — translation: “I don’t have an answer, so I’m ending the conversation and calling it a victory!” :laughing: Go...
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    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Oh, give me a break! Asking you to explain what the “hour of trial” means in the very Scripture YOU quoted is not condescending. It is a legitimate biblical question. If you truly understand the passage, you should be able to explain your interpretation from Scripture, regardless of whether...
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    Stop Believing the "Any Moment" Myth

    True. Ahhh. The question is, do you really understand who is the man of sin? Exactly how will they be decevied with? Not only the pre-tribulation rapture, but also the false doctrine of as "false messiah", or a man with supernatural power, like you claimed? We shall see about that! Oh...
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    The Case for a Post-Tribulation Second Coming

    Are you blind or what? Can't you read the Scripture that YOU quoted? Your scripture says the "hour of trail." Quit stonewalling and making a fool of yourself. No, that is not how this works. I asked you a direct question because I came across your post and wanted to determine whether you...