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    Revelation 12: 13-17 A Future Jewish Persecution

    Satan's final assault against nation Israel in the end time? No! Revelation 12 is NOT describing national Israel as an end-time nation that Satan plan to attack. The woman represents Covenant Israel—the congregation of God—across both sides of the Cross. The vision begins with Old...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Jay, you are partly correct. You are getting warmer to my position. :bigCeeze I agree that the beasts ultimately concern spiritual forces of evil, so quoting Ephesians 6:12 is not where I disagree with you. But you STILL have not answered my actual question: Who exactly are the four beasts of...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Neither. You seem to be confusing two very different points. Your opening post argues that prophetic Scripture should be understood spiritually by “comparing spiritual things with spiritual.” Fine. My comment was addressing to someone else whether he are correctly applying the Scriptures you...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Wrong-o! It is absolutely important to understand who the Two Witnesses are, especially since Scripture tells us that the Beast from the bottomless pit makes war against them. None of God’s Word is pointless! The Two Witnesses represent God’s faithful people (born again Christians), empowered...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Yeah, I can see that. You’ve presented plenty of Scripture. Good job. However...the problem is not the amount of Scripture you quote; it is how you apply it. Quoting verse after verse does not establish a doctrine when those passages are taken out of their proper context and stitched together...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    When I asked you when the beast was cast into the bottomless pit, you answered: "Immediately after Jesus' death and resurrection." Really? Then your own timeline contradicts Revelation 11:7. Revelation 11:7 says: “And WHEN THEY HAVE FINISHED THEIR TESTIMONY, the BEAST THAT RISES FROM THE...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Jay, Jay, Jay... you are confusing two different discussions. My post was a response to someone else (Earburner) who specifically claimed that Jesus and John the Baptist were the Two Witnesses. My questions were testing HIS interpretation. So calling my questions a “smoke screen” completely...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Who are “the rest”? You answered: “The survivors of the earthquake.” Why did they give glory to God? You answered that they were frightened and hoped God would not send another judgment. Very bad speculations! Where does the text say they were hoping to escape another judgment? It...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    How will they be killed? You answered: “By the weight of collapsing buildings.” Again, where does Revelation 11:13 say that? It doesn’t mention collapsing buildings, people trapped beneath rubble, or anyone being crushed to death. Those details are being added to the text. These are not...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Wait... what?! Revelation 11:7 says: “And when they have finished their testimony, THE BEAST THAT RISES FROM THE BOTTOMLESS PIT will make war on them and conquer them and kill them.” So if you claim the Two Witnesses were Jesus and John the Baptist, you have some serious questions to answer...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Who are the “seven thousand”? You answered: “Seven thousand persons died in the collapsed buildings.” Oh boy... again, where does Revelation 11:13 say that 7,000 people were physically crushed beneath collapsed buildings?! It doesn’t. There are no “collapsed buildings” mentioned in the...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    It is halftime for me. I am taking a break to do chores and will finish response to the rest of your answers tonight, Douggg! Take care!
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    What does “the tenth part of the city” signify? You answered: “Ten percent of the buildings in Jerusalem.” Huh? But where does Revelation 11:13 say anything about buildings? It doesn’t. The verse says: “And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell...”...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    What city is this? You answered: “Jerusalem, where people celebrated the Two Witnesses’ death.” Huh? That answer assumes from the beginning that John is describing the literal Middle Eastern city of Jerusalem. But Revelation 11:8 itself tells us not to approach the city merely geographically...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    The problem is that several of your answers are not established by Scripture. They rely on assumptions and speculation added to the text in order to construct a literal narrative. I will respond to each of your answers individually, sometimes in separate posts due to the length required to...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    You are focusing on the “million-dollar” expression while still avoiding the substance of the seven questions. Obviously, “million-dollar questions” is an idiom meaning questions of great importance. Their value is precisely that answering them requires more than consulting Strong’s...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Slam dunk…without any scriptural support? Ha! I think your victory celebration is a little premature. A “slam dunk” still has to make it through the hoop—and in this case, the hoop is Scripture. Good Night! (Chuckle).
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Wow! Thanks for the good laugh. A full response is coming tomorrow after I get a good night’s sleep. But I have to say—an exact literal 7,000 people killed because exactly 10% of Jerusalem’s buildings collapsed on them? Oh man!!! That’s quite an interpretation filled with speculations...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Ha! Calling my seven questions “questionable” is not an answer to any of them. You have spent considerable time insisting that Revelation 11 must be understood according to your interpretation, yet when I ask you to explain Revelation 11:13 in its own context, you dismiss the questions instead...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    My million dollar questions are: When is that hour? What city is this? What does the tenth signifies? Who are the Seven Thousand? How will they be killed? Who are the rest? Why did they give glory to God of Heaven?