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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Time out. Even you are amillennialist (with seasonings of preterism), you still get the interpreation wrong. You are trying to join Matthew 27:54 and Revelation 11:11 together without biblical evidence that they describe the same people or the same event. Matthew 27:54 happened at the...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Well, I see that you are still confusing translation into idiomatic English with “inserting doctrine into Scripture.” Yes, there is no separate Greek verb in Revelation 11:8 corresponding exactly to the KJV words “shall lie.” The Textus Receptus reads: καὶ τὰ πτώματα αὐτῶν ἐπὶ τῆς πλατείας...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    Beyond your ability to control? LOL! How about your ability to receive the truth? Let me use this to teach you something according to the Word of God: Your word study of ἐπί (epi) and πλατεία (plateia) does not refute my interpretation. I have never denied that plateia can mean a physical...
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    The Two Anointed Ones = The Two Witnesses

    I agree with you that Revelation should not be forced into a strictly future, chronological scheme. However, once you reach Revelation 11:1–13, I believe your interpretation goes in the wrong direction—especially when you attempt to replace “lie” with “walk” in Revelation 11:8. There is simply...
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    Enough. You keep repeating the same assertions, insults, and capitalized words as though repetition somehow constitutes exegesis. It does not. I do not care whether you believe in a future earthly 1,000-year kingdom or not because you got the millennial kingdom of Revelation 20 all wrong to...
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    Childish game. “You would lose the bet, pal” proves absolutely nothing. Nobody here can verify what you have or have not read, and frankly, that is no longer the issue. The issue is that after all these exchanges, you still have not produced a serious biblical refutation of the position I...
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    I bet you DID. Where is your biblical refutation? Of course, you never did. :watching and waiting:
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    LOL! You can mock me, accuse me of “flapping,” call my interpretation ridiculous, and complain that people are tired of me—but none of that refutes a single biblical argument I have made! So you really distracting biblical discussion by attacking me. LOL. You accuse me of repeating...
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    (yawning). Here you go again. You keep declaring yourself victorious while STILL refusing to reconcile the very Scriptures placed before you. Repeating “laughable,” “exposed,” and “100% wrong” is rhetoric—not exegesis. First, 2 Peter 3:8 does not prove that the thousand years of Revelation...
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    Nice diversion, but it does not rescue your argument. Yes, I knew that you are midtrib. Fine. But you are still operating within a premillennial framework, which is exactly what I was addressing. Whether you place the rapture before, during, or at the end of the tribulation does absolutely...
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    Haven’t refute my position yet? Got it.
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    No, that is precisely where your hermeneutic goes wrong. Repetition does not magically turn symbolic language into literal language. Saying “a thousand years” six times does not prove that God is counting exactly 1,000 calendar years. Weak assumption. You apparently have not considered HOW...
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    LOL. You keep repeating Zechariah 4 and Revelation 11 while completely ignoring Revelation 1:20, where God Himself gives us the meaning of the symbol!! “The seven candlesticks which thou sawest ARE the seven churches.” — Revelation 1:20 That is not my definition. That is Scripture’s...
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    Whoa! You need to be very careful calling this “baloney,” “malarkey,” and “laughable,” because you are arguing against symbolism that God Himself defines in Revelation. Revelation 1:20 could hardly be clearer: “The seven candlesticks which thou sawest ARE the seven churches.” God defines...
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    Is it the best you can response biblically? Guess what, sarcasm is easy. Exegesis takes a little more work, you realize this, don't you? Calling it “gymnastics” doesn’t actually refute anything I wrote. Revelation itself introduces the Two Witnesses symbolically as “the two olive trees” and...
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    Read all of my posts, starting with OP, on this thread. You can find the answers there.
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    Two Witnesses - A Biblical Perspective

    Thank you! The Two Witnesses will not be Enoch and Elijah. Read my OP for biblical answer.