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I really don't understand the mind that believes Christ came in 70 AD to judge Israel of Old. They use the writings found in the prophets of old and say see how they speak as the LORD coming in clouds etc. and His wrath was poured out on them. Where in those writings do the prophets speak of...

Eternal life through the Messiah who was to come was not limited to Jews only. Some Gentiles were eternally saved before the advent of Christ. The problem was to be saved of Old Gentiles had to convert to Judaism and obey the laws and commandments of God. Since Israel hoarded the oracles of...

Yes, I agree, which is why I am not the typical Amil. I'm not so married to any doctrine that I cannot change when through my study of Scripture I've come to understand some things differently than I once did. You're forgetting there are only some who are ordained to eternal who shall believe...

No, Christ did not return in 70 AD. He will not return before the spiritual Kingdom of God is complete, and the seventh trumpet sounds that time shall be no longer. Sin has not ended, but the power of sin that held us in fear of the power of death has ended for all who are born again.

David, why would you say the first advent binding Satan is permanent and can't be reversed? His binding is only to last as long as this time symbolized a thousand years continues. Rev 20 clearly shows us that when this symbolic time has expired Satan will no longer be bound, and will be able...

I've come to similar belief. IMO the only way to correctly understand the words Christ spoke from the Mt of Olives is to interpret His words as dual prophecy for both the nation of Israel in unbelief as well as prophecy directed to Christ's disciples (Church) of things that shall come as...

What do the locusts symbolize? Are they in a literal pit? Why when they are freed from the pit are they able to torment only those who do not have the seal of God in their foreheads (unbelievers)? And who is the king over them whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek...

Christians were scattered abroad preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom of God long before 70 AD. This was after the first advent of Christ. Saul, who became the Apostle to the Gentiles caused many of them to spread into other nations. It was the cross of Christ that caused persecution and...

Where is the pit that he is bound in David? When Christ was born the war that took place in heaven ejected Satan from heaven and cast him to the earth where he is now bound as king of the bottomless pit. What is the bottomless pit if it is not bound to be ruler over the dead? Satan is bound...

The lake of fire is not a place where the unrepentant might become penitent and on bended knee confess Jesus Christ as their Lord. It is called the "Second Death" for a reason. Those cast into the lake of fire experience eternal death, or death that is unending. Unrepentant sinners have...

I think the reason so many deny that Satan was bound by the advent of Christ is because they don't understand what being bound that "he should no longer deceive the nations" means. We must understand how his binding is not literal, but symbolic and it is specific in purpose. Satan is not bound...

But what Satan no longer has the power to do is to deceive the nations into believing the only fate for humanity is DEATH! With the advent of Christ coming to earth, Satan only has power to hold in bondage to fear of death those who remain in unbelief. Satan's power to deceive has most...

Interesting you moved in this direction. I'm Amil that moved from Premil, but as I learned more through my study of Scripture I now understand how partial preterism is not far from what I have come to believe is written in the Olivet Discourse. While I would not label myself full preterit or...

The answer lies in the question of how Satan was able to deceive the nations prior to his being bound. It was not as so many believe to rid the world of evil. It was so the Kingdom of God could be built. Before Christ's coming Satan had power to hold the nations who had never heard of Christ...

Yes, I do remember how we have been frustrating one another for many years now regarding our opposing positions of eschatology. I wondered if you would one day come to this site. I've been here now since 11/22, I was happy to find a community where discussion is more freely allowed. The...

Hi David, welcome! I, being amillennial also believe that when the seventh trumpet begins to sound that time shall be no longer, there is still some time left for this world. That time is not yet judgment day, which I believe shall come in A day, the time left after time given the Church for...

That's not redefining a Jew. While Israel is an ethnic people, Israel of God is all people of faith. Your argument implies something not said, since the FACT that all Israel of the biological seeds of Abraham are not all Israel that shall be saved. And you continue to say Christ will save...

It is only the DEAD, according to Rev 20 who shall be called before the judgment throne to be judged according to what is written in the books and the book of life. Believers won't be judged then because Christ has already been judged for us. When we are in Christ, what He has we have, that's...

No facts don't set us free! However, the Gospel proclaimed in the power of His Spirit for all who believe does set us free. The Gospel is the message about Christ that is offered unto all people without cost, and those who hear and believe by grace through faith (the power of God) are given...

Behold, if you believe that saints of Christ can live in bodies of death without ever succumbing to sin, then it is you who needs to study the Bible and stop taking verses here and there to create a doctrine the whole of Scripture denies. Yes, we are in Christ saints; saints who are not yet...