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Yes, in heaven souls alive after physical death become a spiritual body of believers in heaven, who were during their lives a physical body of believers on earth. Because the spirit returns to God with life through the Spirit of Christ within.

The verse says they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. That means they were in life faithful unto death. John does not say they lived again in bodies of flesh.

While I agree that the faithful shall enter into the next age that shall be without death, sin or corruption/evil, so it will be a life of bliss on the new earth. But I do not agree with your understanding of what it means to possess eternal life. Because the life we have when we are born...

Where do we find this Greek word zao that means alive in the verse? John writes only of SOULS of them that were martyred for their faith. John says souls because being souls without flesh is to continue to have life through their eternal spirit. Revelation 20:4 (KJV) And I saw thrones, and...

I understand what you're saying and do not disagree. But the Bible never says we who were "spiritually dead"... We understand how fallen man is dead in trespasses and sins without the presence of the Holy Spirit within them. But the Bible does not call our new birth, or spiritual birth a...

No FOG, that's your doctrine being read into the passage. Where in this verse do we find any mention of these martyred SOULS having a body of flesh? You ASSUME being a soul means having a body, but saying soul is saying LIFE that is found within the spiritual body of believers after they have...

Since Daniel 12 is prophecy pointing to the advent of Christ coming as the Messiah/Redeemer the prophecy goes from the advent of Christ's birth to the end of days. It covers the same time period John writes symbolically as a thousand years. Not literally one thousand years, but time that runs...

All I will say about this is that it is not what I have heard from any other Amillennial believer.

I believe Dan 12:1 is also referring to the advent of Christ. When we compare it to the battle that took place in heaven we find Satan and his angels were cast out of heaven and bound to the earth when Christ was born. That is when the age of Gospel grace began, but Christ must live a sinless...

Daniel is referring to this age of Gospel grace. Some, those who died in faith of Old, believing the Messiah/Redeemer would come arose from the grave a spiritual body of believers and appeared in the holy, heavenly city new Jerusalem and were seen by the whole hosts of heaven. That's why we...

I use the word ascended because that is what we read in Scripture. When Christ ascended to heaven, those who were dead ascended with Him there. Ephesians 4:8-10 (KJV) Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that he ascended...

What do you think must be read into the text that is not there if the many who arose from the graves after the resurrection of Christ is in view?

The first resurrection is the bodily resurrection of Christ because He is the first resurrection of the dead to never die again. We partake of His resurrection through His Spirit in us when we are born again, and the life we have through Him is everlasting. Daniel 12:2 is NOT referring to the...

You're right David, there surely is something very wrong with that understanding of Rev 20. The main focus of this chapter IMO is to give faithful saints assurance that we have everlasting life when we have part in Christ who is the first resurrection to never die again before we physically...

Our spirit is only dead in trespasses and sins. Which means we have the breath of life (spirit) but being dead in trespasses and sins we are of the spirit of this world, sons of disobedience. Being born again is not being resurrected from spiritual death which we would have to be if our spirit...

Our spirit is made alive by/through or because of the first resurrection that is the bodily resurrection of Christ we must have part of in life before we die. It has caused much confusion in saying our spirit is resurrected, when our spirit was not altogether without life, being [SPIRITUALLY]...

I don't entirely disagree C&Z. But I do disagree about when we receive eternal everlasting life. I don't think that any doctrine could be made more clearly than the fact that we have everlasting or eternal life when we believe in Christ for salvation. Christ has already made us eternally...

It's so easy to point out the inconsistency found in your unbiblical doctrine!

So how does this prevent His spirit from returning to the Father when He died on the cross?

Physically resurrected without a head? How else would John know they had been beheaded? He saw them physically alive without heads? Strange doctrine! You seem to be so preoccupied trying to disprove Biblical truth that you have become altogether blinded from receiving truth.