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  1. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Did you read post #568 my reply to you? You guys aren't actually reading my post and saying what you think I believe and I don't I actualy said "this act from God brought a physical end to the Christ rejecting sacrifices."
  2. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No, I'm not assuming that every reference to Jerusalem, the temple, and stones must be interpreted literally, that's why I posted Mathew 23:37, of course Jesus was meaning apostate Israel when He said "“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to...
  3. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I'm not laughing off anything; all I'm saying is that I believe that the Olivet Discourse was about the time leading up to and including the destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the physical Old Testament way. The temple sacrifices carried on after the first advent which was a rejection of...
  4. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes within that generation
  5. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Matthew 23:37-Mathew 24:3 37 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to it! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you were not willing! 38 See, your house is left to you desolate. 39...
  6. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    No, my argument is that Jesus predicted that Jerusalem would be destroyed and when that would happen and it happened when Jesus said that it would happen, what else do I need? I don’t get it, this is the type of conversation I thought I would have trying to prove to someone that Jesus was God
  7. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yet Jerusalem was destroyed when Jesus said that Jerusalem would be destroyed, I'll stick with that. By the way the city gate would be locked closed every Sabbath in biblical times in Jerusalem.
  8. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Did you read my whole post? I gave other reasons besides how many died and what Josephus said and even said that it wasn't about how many were killed what makes it the worst time in history. History proves the true meaning of biblical prophecy and the fact that destruction of Jerusalem...
  9. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Josephus the Jewish historian who was sanctioned by Cesar to record the Roman siege records how it was the most brutal time in history, not only due to the numbers that were killed but of the horrifying events that took place within the city. Eleven out of every twelve people were killed 1.1...
  10. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    The Olivet Discourse was a warning to the saints to flee the city before the destruction and a prediction of judgement upon Israel with a date attached to it proving that Jesus was God
  11. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Its about context in Rev 7:14 the subjects are the saint from every nation and in the Matthew 24 the context is apostate Israel but verse 9 the context are the saints, they are separated
  12. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Again, why can't some of these be Jesus as Jesus is also God
  13. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Why would you think the Father and not Jesus?
  14. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Yes, but in Revelation 7:14 its tied to the martyred saints and in the Olivet Discourse there is the wrath of God tribulation upon apostate Isreal in which the saints were spared
  15. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I found this its interesting In the Bible, Exodus 33:20 states, "You cannot see My face, for no one can see Me and live." This verse highlights the absolute holiness of God and the sinfulness of humanity. It emphasizes that approaching God in His full glory is impossible for humans due to our...
  16. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    I believe that's its called "the great tribulation" because it will never end in our world. It started the day Stephen was killed and is still happening today.
  17. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Thanks for your prayers, I'm glad our debating and frustrations issues are never personal LOL we are all still on the same side
  18. Marty fox

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Revelation 7 4 I answered, “Sir, you know.” And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Well it does but the word "The" separates it from other great tribulations