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So what other literal detail do we need to spiritualize away?

Well put!

No. The disciples were always literalizing spiritual truth. Jesus answered them, describing the great commission. That was how the kingdom was manifested to Israel, and then revealed to the nations.

No, I call your false accusations out, and you don't like it.

This is typical Premil noise, when they have nothing. Where is your rebuttal? Give us a link. I will not hold my breath.

Not so! That is butchering God's Word to support a man-centered gospel. You are misinterpreting the text and misrepresenting God. Sad! Arminianists are fighting with the sacred text. They are offended with the idea of a sovereign God who calls the shots.

You, or no Premil, have any rebuttal. It is eye-opening to see you avoiding it like the plague.

I disagree. Romans 9 couldn't be clearer. It is demonstrating that salvation is indeed personal and divine and not racial and man-centered (as the Jews thought and as the Dispies think). God chooses who He wishes and hardens who He wishes. Ephesians 1 reinforces this great truth.

You are trying to negate one truth with another truth. That's not the way Scripture works. God literally chose one son and rejected another. Fact! As a result, he also chose one nation over another. Fact! Both are true. All the other texts above reinforce personal election, that we are...

It is the Book that exposes your error. You've no answer to the truth.

If they become born again, surrender their lives to Christ and become Christians.

This is fake news. You didn't want to see what it says. You need to change your theological glasses. Election is individual, divine and irreversible. So do you deny the testimonies of these following Bible writers? Isaac and Jacob Romans 9:6-14 says, “For they are not all Israel, which are...

Bro, he is frustrated because he's got no rebuttal to what you have written. That is the way he operates. Talk about bitter and vicious.

There are 2 peoples in Israel as there is an any nation - the blinded and the elect.

Yes! Elect Jews and Gentiles are now one. There are no other elect.

Op Note After all this time, we do not have one single Premil rebuttal of the Op. That is because it is watertight. That is because it forbids Premil. Compare this to the non-evidential threads Premils start that refute nothing but their own reasoning.

Congratulations on ignoring both passages he asked you to explain. The only thing that is obsolete and outdated is your arguments. They died a long time ago. It is time to give them a decent burial. Nothing seems to have changed with you from the old days. This is how you function. Avoidance...

More noise and zero evidence.

Do you believe in biblical corroboration?

Talk about rewriting history! Premil got demolished. There was no rebuttal there, and none here.