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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    This is repeating ad nauseum the same garbage already shown to be error! You can go back and read it again, but I'm really tired of repeating myself to an apparent spiritually blind and death person. I call your doctrine bizarre garbage not God's Holy Word! It is your doctrine that turns the...
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    madness and the woman

    Exactly Randy! Paul clearly says that all Israel shall be saved by the fullness, meaning complete number of them, have come in to the same good olive tree of faith with Israel or Jews of faith. IOW it is in this manner, this way that "all Israel shall be saved". So, I ask once again how can...
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    madness and the woman

    Randy, you're reading "nation" into the text when it is NOT there. Paul clearly says that Gentiles coming into Israel is how "all Israel shall be saved." Paul does not say then the blindness shall be lifted so the nation can then be called a Christian nation. Yes, the nation, called "the...
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    Why is there a new song in heaven?

    Rev 4 depicts celebration in heaven, and the giving of praise to the LORD, God Almighty, I don't see a depiction of singing either the song of Moses or the song of the Lamb??? The new song which the song of the Lamb undoubtedly is, is, I believe of salvation through Christ. The song of Moses...
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    madness and the woman

    Randy, if Ro 11 says all ethnic Israel shall be saved, then Paul is contradicting himself! Where does Paul say anywhere in Scripture that blindness in part to national Israel shall be lifted after the fullness of Gentiles are grafted into the same good olive tree of faith with faithful Jews...
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    madness and the woman

    What does Paul tell us in context Randy? Paul tells us that when the fullness of Gentiles come into the same tree of faith is how all Israel shall be saved. Paul does not say when the fullness of Gentiles come in that the blindness in part to Israel in unbelief shall be lifted. But that...
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    The problem of bifurcating truth.

    What more to their Covenant with God does Israel have that other people do not Mark? Christ came to usher in a New Covenant making the Old Covenant obsolete. Even perfect obedience to the Sinai/Levitical/Mosaic Covenant will not bring them to faith in Christ. The Scripture is very clear that...
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    The problem of bifurcating truth.

    You said "But yes, I think these passages which show Israel keeping the Sinai Covenant will be fulfilled also." How would keeping the Sinai Covenant which according to Paul would bring them to bondage, be a means of saving them? Galatians 4:24 (KJV) Which things are an allegory: for these...
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    madness and the woman

    Can you explain how Ro 11 proves ethnic Israel shall be a Christian nation?
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    The problem of bifurcating truth.

    Glad you ask him, I was wondering about his defining of the Sinai Covenant myself?
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Certainly there are Jews still in the world today! BUT they are not of the 144,000 of all the tribes of the children of Israel. As Rev 14 shows us, they are now a spiritual body of believers in heaven because they kept the faith to the end of their lives on earth.
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    Acts 3:25 the Jews heirs of the covenant

    Perhaps you could show us where in Ro 11 Paul writes "all Israel shall be saved" is an ethnic rather than a spiritual people?
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    Acts 3:25 the Jews heirs of the covenant

    If our understanding of one passage of Scripture appears to be in contradiction to another passage, there is something seriously wrong with our understanding! Because the Word of God does not contradict itself! Explain how can Christ be a ransom for ALL (without exception), and yet say the way...
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    Acts 3:25 the Jews heirs of the covenant

    If after the seventh trumpet sounds you are still left alive on this earth, then you are not of the Kingdom of God, and you will be burned up with the fire of God's wrath that shall come upon the whole earth. The faithful saints will not be surprised because we shall all be safely caught up to...
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    The problem of bifurcating truth.

    When you say "all Israel is saved as a nation" are you saying that the nation of Israel, whether of faith or in unbelief, shall continue to exist as a physical nation upon the earth to the last trumpet sounding?
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    The problem of bifurcating truth.

    Randy don't state what you think Amillennialism doctrine is. I know MANY Amillennialists, including myself, and not ONE of them believe or teach that the Christian Church rejected or even replaced the nation of Israel. Amillennialism in fact believes that faithful Israel together with faithful...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I agree with most of what you've written here. But you have not shown why the words of Christ do not have a dual fulfillment through redemptive history. Both spiritual fulfillment through the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ, and a literal physical fulfillment when both Jerusalem, the...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    It seems that Paul saw a need to continue to observe the Old ceremonial Law for the benefit of bringing fellow Jews to the Lord. Acts 18:21 (KJV) But bade them farewell, saying, I [Paul] must by all means keep this feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if God...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Spiritually speaking the Old was destroyed through the cross and resurrection of Christ. However, the Old Covenant people that lived on the earth at a time when two opposing Covenants had come to this earth did not have spiritual discernment. The Covenant people of Old were not destroyed by...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I agree, but when asking about Jerusalem and the Temple buildings, the disciples were pointing to physical structures, and the reply Christ gave was that they would all be literally destroyed. We know the spiritual temple, Christ, was destroyed and in three days was raised up again just as the...