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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    If "great tribulation" has not already been the fate for Christ's body; the Church/Christians, how do you explain "great tribulation" that has been, is, and shall always be the lot in life for people of faith? Has there ever been any other entity upon the earth to have suffered more than the...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I believe the wrath of God that came against the apostate nation was spoken by Christ as being "great tribulation" for the Jewish nation even as it would be for the Church. That wasn't the same kind of "great tribulation" that would come against the Church as the Gospel is proclaimed unto all...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    This is a continuation of my previous unfinished reply. Why do you say the physically dead are the firstfruits, when Paul has twice shown Christ is the firstfruits of the physically dead? The dead are not raptured when Christ comes again. They are physically resurrected immortal and...
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    Was Satan evil in Job 1:7?

    There is not controversy here. Gen 1 shows the creation of all that God created. Then Gen 2 is a recapitulation focusing on what became of Adam and his progeny as the "generations" proceed from him. Genesis 2:4-5 (KJV) These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they...
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    Was Satan evil in Job 1:7?

    And where or from whom did this Greek text Codex Sinaiticus originate from?
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Thank you for supplying Scripture. Now we can discuss how or why we discern particular passages. The verse from 1Cor 15 tells us Christ is the firstfruits of those who have died. In context Paul says again that Christ is the firstfruits of the dead. Paul is referring back to what he had...
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    Was Satan evil in Job 1:7?

    How do you or anyone else know what is original, since the original no longer exists? All we have is translations from other translations. So it becomes a matter of faith. Because God has promised His words shall never pass away, that we would always have, in spite of the plethora of...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Another display of whimsical imagination!! The Bible never speaks of Noah being carried on the ark "high into the sky"!!!
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No you TWIST the Word of God to try and force fit it to your imagined biblical doctrine. That's why I would like to know what verses you've twisted to fit this absurd opinion that the rapture has already occurred for 144,000 saints????
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    They were not raptured to heaven. They, as spiritual body of believers ascended to heaven as living souls without physical body after the resurrection of Christ. Scripture tells us faithful saints who had died before Christ lived and died were captives in the grave until Christ descended down...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    If you expect me or anyone to agree with your opinions, you're going to have to prove what you allege! I'm really not interested in what you think is truth, but what you can prove to be truth.
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    Was Satan evil in Job 1:7?

    Scripture also says humankind (man) came from the one man & woman; Adam and Eve. Humanity had to have a beginning.
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    What is SMH???
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    The kingdom of God is in the MIDST of you

    Those who have physically died are a spiritual body of believers in heaven. And those who are still gathering together physically alive are a body of believers on the earth, called "His Church".
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    The kingdom of God is in the MIDST of you

    According to Christ He was! John 14:16-17 (KJV) And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth...
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    The kingdom of God is in the MIDST of you

    What did Christ mean when He said "the Kingdom of God is within you"? Ye must be born again to know and enter the Kingdom of God, because His Kingdom is not flesh and blood, but His Spirit in you. John 3:3-7 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a...
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    The kingdom of God is in the MIDST of you

    Christ was speaking to Pharisees who believed there would be a physical manifestation of the Kingdom of God on this earth. Christ tells them the Kingdom of God does not come with observation, IOW it is not a physical Kingdom of this world. For this reason we should not follow or believe those...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    You have Christ returning when the sixth SEAL is opened, but John writes after the seventh SEAL is opened there are still seven angels to come with seven trumpets to sound, and John writes "time shall be no longer" when the seventh angel begins to sound. It is when time shall be no longer that...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    What 7 year period are you referring to? I don't find this 7 year period in Scripture??? It is always read into the Scripture by dispensationalists, but does not come from Scripture!
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    In Peleg's days, the EARTH was divided

    It seems you often insist on having scholarly references! Do you believe one must be a Biblical scholar to understand Biblical doctrine? Does not the common Christian man not also have the Spirit to guide him within?