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To arrive at the ‘corporate position’ one has to totally ignore Paul’s overriding message of two types of Israeli in Romans 9–11 (and in the whole book of Romans). Throughout, he is constantly differentiating between Israelis that are blind and Israelis that are elect. One also has to ignore the...

Check the Op. You have been avoiding it for long enough.

Today, if an individual wants to be part of true Israel, they do not need to become a citizen of ethnic Israel and be physically circumcised. No, they simply need to put their trust in the Lord Jesus Christ, receive His forgiveness and obtain eternal life and they are grafted into true believing...

Your fight is with Scripture! Romans 9:6-13: “For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, they which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but...

You have nothing to bring to the table but misrepresentations of reality.

I have reworded: In short, he shows that there will be those that are one thing in the natural and the opposite in the spiritual. Natural Jews can be spiritually classed as Gentiles (or heathens) and natural Gentiles can be spiritually classed as Jews. Of course, a natural Jew can also be a...

The Church alone possesses the favored titles “the children of God” (John 11:51-52) and “the children of the promise” (Romans 9:8). Paul speaking to the Galatian church in Galatians 4:28 says, “Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.” Not only did Paul instruct the Roman...

This is a total misrepresentation of what Paul is saying here. To be God's elect is spiritual. To believe is spiritual. To be a child of promise is spiritual. There is no getting around that. I suspect you know that. But you cannot admit that as it would demolish your thesis. The Apostle...

It is originated in God's truth. If you have anything to refute it: show me how my understanding of the Scriptures in the Op is wrong then! If you cannot it will be a testimony that your posts are all noise. It seems like you are incapable of exegeting Scripture. All you have is your insults...

You seem fixated with 70AD. I never hear you talking about the cross or the glorious future return of Christ.

Romans 9:1-8 makes clear, "I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: Who...

God is a covenant-making and a covenant-keeping God. He has a single overriding spiritual covenant plan for mankind. God’s covenant of grace is a singular multifaceted covenant with man that runs through both the Old and New Testament economies. This is centered on the person and work of Jesus...

Paul was actually directly cutting across the prominent erroneous Israeli ethnic delusion that many Hebrews were beguiled with that they were automatically a chosen people because of their race. Nothing could have been further from the truth. Paul blows this out of the water from many directions...

Yes, you did. I quoted you word for word.

He is simply repeating what many Premillennialist believe today. It is so sad! It is the complete opposite of what the Scriptures teach!

Romans 9:6-13 explains how God’s people and the seed of promise are not a natural but a spiritual seed. In his thesis on the promised seed, we find Jacob and us the believing Gentiles. He affirms: “For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham...

You totally contradict yourself. Why would they need Jesus Christ whenever they automatically have salvation through Israeli birthright? This is ridiculous! This is heresy!

Projection! The opposite is actually the truth.

You are totally distorting what Paul is teaching to support ethnic Zionism. Romans 11:5-7 explains: “Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of...

You are describing yourself perfectly. The opposite is actually the truth. Amillennialists are the ones letting the Bible speak for itself. They don't need to twist the text. It is more than capable of expressing what we believe.