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It is called the catching away. Rapture is a Pretrib invention. It is not in the original Greek.

I understand. None of these men were Pretrib.

Lol. I suspected you would not know. Your doctrine has been well and truly exposed. Your rebuttal is non-existent.

V6 does not relate partaking in the first resurrection to just martyrs. It relates it to all the redeemed.

I already gave you the evidence. Your beliefs seem to be built on man by the look of it.

Can you give me the post number? I do not recall a detailed rebuttal. This will be the 1st one on this thread.

You (and other Premils) have not laid one punch on the Op. You have rather avoided it.

No. You are pushing Pretrib, yet you do not have a proof-text. Does that not concern you?

Not so! You have no rapture passage that teaches a trib after it. You therefore have no biblical doctrine. It is an extra-biblical theory. It was invented by the Jesuits in the 1800s to infiltrate Protestantism. If you had Scripture you would give it, but you do not. Pretrib is a man-made...

It is unbelievable that you are so adamant at pushing a doctrine with zero proof texts. You have shown you have nothing, yet you refuse to let go of your error. The burden of proof is in your court.

You have no Pretrib passage to bring to the table. All you have is your infantile chides. And no, this is nothing to do with Prewrath, we are talking about Pretrib. You have no Pretrib passage. If you had, you would produce it. The wrath that comes is totally destructive - like as in Sodom...

Exactly. It is not in God's Book. It is extra-biblical. You have no rapture passage that shows a trib following. You have been misled.

Where is a rapture mentioned in Daniel 9? Where is your seven year tribulation mentioned in Daniel 9? Where is your 3rd coming mentioned in Daniel 9?

More lies. The opposite is the truth. The reason Premils have to misrepresent Amil is because they cannot deal with what it actually teaches. You cannot refute that.

More classic Premil projection. This is a willful lie. And you wonder why few Amils respect you. One thing Premils are notorious for at times is disregarding context and then conflating things because of that. They certainly do that in Revelation 20:4-6.

Cut the trash-talking out and cut the avoidance of it. You have proved nothing yet apart from the fact that you are a master at avoidance. Can you present one single rapture passage that teaches there will be “a time of trouble,” a "seven-year period of judgment" or a seven-year ...

Tribulation has always been the believer's lot throughout time. That will of course intensify before the end when the mystery of iniquity is unrestrained and Satan is loosed for his little season. You cannot even support your Pretrib thesis. That is because it is a theological invention that...

The act of quickening our physical bodies does not happen upon salvation, as you claim, but at the second coming, when we are glorified. Jesus was not quickened and resurrected until after He was dead on the 3rd day. Rom 8:10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the...

You wrongly invent different saved groups that are not part of the ongoing Church from the beginning. This you do err. There are only saved and lost when Jesus comes. That is all there has ever been. I showed you the evidence. The saved are all rescued and the lost are all destroyed at the...

Oh, I get it. You change Scripture to suit your theological purposes and fit Pretrib. Ok!