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NOPE! You show how little understanding of Scripture you possess! Why don't you show me "all the components I need to change"....surrounding the 144,000? You appear to be all opinion with no truth! How could you ever find yourself in a Biblical doctrinal trap since you have no understanding...

This is a good verse to bring forth. Notice the verse says to WORK OUT, it does not say WORK FOR. How does one work OUT his/her salvation? For one with fear and trembling, and to understand the verse in context, we find that God, through His Spirit is working in us that after we have received...

I believe the Bible shows us the 144,000 of all the tribes of the children of Israel were the beginning (firstfruits) of saints ascending spiritually alive to heaven AFTER the resurrection of Christ. They lived and died before the Spirit was sent to be IN them. After Christ defeated death by...

Do you believe one must be Catholic to believe Christ? FWIW no, I am not a Catholic, but I am a Bible believing Christian! I KNOW with blessed assurance that though my body shall grow old, sick and one day succumb to death, I shall NEVER DIE! You speak of Abraham and other OT faithful saints...

You're right we are not on the same page. How do you account for the verses I gave you showing Abraham and Israel all heard the Gospel before the first advent of Christ? The Old Covenant faithful learned of the Messiah to come through the Law and Prophets. Those who believed the Messiah would...

I agree, I often use Bible commentaries and Bible concordances, as well as Bible dictionaries, but why would I want help in understanding the Bible from secular sources? Archaeology can be of value, but as long as there are new discoveries the information changes. Unlike the Word of God which...

You'll have to show what traditions of the Jews you fear I may be putting so much faith in??? Maybe I'm a little dense, but I just don't get why a Christian would want to use academia rather than the Bible alone to understand both redemptive and human history??? I've never doubted that...

Why should I believe your references rather than the Bible? I'm just a bit confused about what this thread is attempting to prove??? Sorry!

Maybe over my head, and unable to penetrate your hard head ;)

I know! I've come to the point where I rarely bother responding to his posts because they are so far out there! I can scarcely make out what direction this one will go in next. But I doubt it will be a direction we might likely recognize.

You give no reference that we should believe "Moses" compiled Genesis from older material" that may have come to him through Edomites/Kenites/Midianites, rather than from God. The Bible speaks as though all that is credited to Moses was given him from God, who instructed him to write it down...

If it is true that "The Kenites were the elder branch of the tribe of Midianites", then would not Jethro have been a Kenite from the tribe of Midian?

A little research yielded me this commentary that appears to dispel the Kenite Hypothesis. Ellicott's Bible Commentary for English Readers Judges 1:16 (16) The children of the Kenite, Moses' father in law.—It is difficult to disentangle the names Jethro, Reuel, or Raguel, and Hobab (Jg...

But we weren't talking about the families still living in this world, we were talking about how there is no harm in physical death for those who die in Christ. Of course the death of loved ones is always hard for those who are still living. But their hope shall be, that one day they too shall...

That's not harm, but rather praise worthy!! They departed this physical world and returned to the Father in heaven spiritually ALIVE! Ecclesiastes 12:7 (KJV) Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Scripture speaks of Christ as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. According to Covenant promise between God, the Father, God, the Son, and God, the Holy Spirit, the promise of God to grant eternal life to some of mankind, a promise which cannot be broken, was assured for all who...

While it's true the name given the followers of Jesus Christ the Messiah as Christian, began at Antioch, but the name given to whosoever believed in the Messiah were His followers and believers before the advent of His first coming. Because they heard the Gospel of Christ the Messiah and...

Try discerning the words of Zechariah through what is written in the New Testament. Christ is the fulfillment of prophesy of Old. Begin with Acts 2, 10:45, 11:15 read in context. Then see Titus 3:5-7 as well as Heb 10. Ro 8:15-27, Eph 6:18 & Jude 20. You're looking for a future fulfillment...

Your done talking, but only if you get the last word? Today, in this age, the age of the Gospel is when all people, no matter what their ethnic makeup must turn to Christ to be saved. There shall never be a national conversion of Jews in unbelief to turn to Christ for salvation. Because as...

It's for the best that you are finished with the discussion. Because here again you have opinions but no supporting Scripture to prove what you allege. Dispensationalism and Zionism are not friends of ethnic unbelieving Jews. You promote a doctrine that tells them that God will once again...