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    2 answers to 2 questions on the O.D.

    Name one. Name, date, verbatim quote, link. Some actual evidence. Impossible for df, I know. It is virtually exclusively a df thing, integral and essential to the f in df, spawned in the Jesuit counterfeit counter-reformation of the historical apostasized papacy.
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    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    Not according to Luke 21:20. It was the Roman armies.
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    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    Brother, why are you ignoring Luke 21:20? There is a three-way corroboration between Matthew 24:15, Daniel 9:26-27, and Luke 21:20 which unmistakably identifies and confirms the AoD of 70 AD as the Roman armies. It is therefore a different AoD from Daniel 12:9-13. Hence your confusion.
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    2 answers to 2 questions on the O.D.

    To assist in the understanding of dispensational futurism's Matthew 24, I'm quoting several of its verses from its df bible. I trust this will be helpful: 4 And Jesus answered and said unto not them, Take heed that no man deceive not you. 5 For many shall not yet come in my name, saying, I am...
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    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    Everything that I quoted from the df bible is "not yet", so it is of the future. Exactly as you claim.
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    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    Feel free to explain with bias and understanding how ye is not ye, and/or see is not see, and/or Jerusalem is not Jerusalem, and/or compassed is not compassed, and/or armies is not armies, and/or know is not know, and/or desolation is not desolation, and/or nigh is not nigh.
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    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    From the df bible: Matthew 23 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that not yet killest the prophets, and not yet stonest them which are not yet sent unto thee, how often would I have not yet gathered thy children together, even as a hen not yet gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would...
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    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    But Jesus didn't misjudge it. He spoke in the present tense, reflecting the impending doom of that generation.
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    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    Tell Jesus that He was wrong about everything.
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    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    Better tell Jesus that He was wrong. Matthew 23 37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your...
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    2 answers to 2 questions on the O.D.

    Two of the defining characteristics of df are denial and disbelief. They accompany its fallacies and fantasies. All are abundantly present in your ravings here.
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    2 answers to 2 questions on the O.D.

    I'm amil. There's no bad guy in Daniel 9:27. df claims a bad guy in Daniel 9:27. Messiah the Prince in Daniel 9:25 is the grammatical antecedent of df's bad guy in Daniel 9:27. Do you think that Messiah the Prince is a bad guy?
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    Timing of the abomination of desolation

    It wasn't conjecture on Luke's part. Luke 21 20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. What to believe? 1. Luke's account or 2. Dispensational futurism's disbelief The Holy Spirit was Luke's inspiration in identifying the...
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    2 answers to 2 questions on the O.D.

    Christ's return, which we await in these last days which began 2,000 years ago. Hebrews 1 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom...
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    2 answers to 2 questions on the O.D.

    So clarify what you're conveying.
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    2 answers to 2 questions on the O.D.

    The historical true Church strongly repudiates your modernist dispensational futurist denial and rejection of historical prophetic fulfillments.
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    2 answers to 2 questions on the O.D.

    He is Messiah the Prince, who confirmed His New Covenant (Matthew 26:28), caused sacrifice and oblation to cease by His Death in the midst of the 70th week, and desolated Jerusalem until its consummated complete destruction, using the Roman armies as His agents of judgment and complete...
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    2 answers to 2 questions on the O.D.

    Messiah the Prince was and is a Good Guy. He desolated Jerusalem until its consummated complete destruction, using the Roman armies as His agents of judgment and complete annihilation. Exactly as Daniel foretold.
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    2 answers to 2 questions on the O.D.

    Jesus in Matthew 24:15 and the parallel synoptic Gospels affirmed Daniel's description of the destruction of Jerusalem in Daniel 9:27 in 70 AD.
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    2 answers to 2 questions on the O.D.

    There's no bad guy in Daniel 9:27. That is dispensational futurist fantasy and fallacy.