Search results

Dispies is not a word. But it is clear that you are not understanding the scriptures and so you would rather read your own fantasy world into them.

Is Christ a metaphor? Silly question. Spiritual hope in what? Union with God? You mean reconciliation with God....no not a metaphor. Are you confused regarding metaphors and reality?

Not avoiding you were saying I was thinking a metaphor is not important or meaningful and I explained that is not true. Can you be a physical citizen in a metaphor? Do we need to be fitted for the armor of God? Can we run for mayor in a spiritual Israel? It is a metaphor, a thought, a comparison.

As a whole we are descendants of the Gentile-Christians.....Pagans that converted to Christianity, not Judaism or Israel. Israel meant very little to them. Now Paul on the on the hand, like I said was surely sad that his brethren that had not accepted Christ had missed the boat so to speak...

What is a spiritual Israel? In the heart, in Heaven, floating around here and there.

I did not say that metaphors do not have meaning. The Parables of the Gospels, the verses about the body of Christ and putting on the full armor of God.....lots of meaning. In this case I think Paul was retroflecting....reminiscing.

Again a metaphor. Can you join a nation that does not exist. Today we cannot join the Roman Empire or be a citizen of the Roman Empire because.....it does not exist anymore. The Gentiles were converted to Christianity. The were not made Jewish. They were never allowed in the Temple.

No I am telling the truth...the facts. It means they were thinking of it in their minds.....there is no real citizenship in a metaphorical concept. No place to live in a metaphorical Israel. No place to live in a spiritual Israel. No way to govern in metaphorical Israel. Yeshua would be the King...

When was the nation of Israel established? Israel first became a nation in the Old Testament with the Exodus from Egypt, around the 13th–15th century BCE. When did the Nation of Israel cease to exist? The Northern Kingdom of Israel fell to the Assyrians in 722 BCE, and the Southern Kingdom of...

Humans think of metaphorical concepts.....nothing material.... Like the body of Christ, it is not a physical thing. No one could say, lets go to the nation of Israel, because it did not exist during the New Testament. But they could sit around the campfire and think about Israel.

Well call it what you will.....but Israel did not exist..... Sure memories of their lost nation was heavy on their minds. There was a mind set of a spiritual Israel but you cannot draw a picture of spiritual Israel. And they wanted their nation back....ie all the Jewish revolts. Then Israel was...

The key point lost.....lost house of Israel. The cities were still there but no nation of Israel and under the rule of the Roman empire. The Romans would have killed anyone proclaiming being part of Israel.

Yes I am saying the physical nation of Israel did not exist during the New Testament. So if no one is saying that the Gentile Christians are part of Judaism or the physical nation of Israel. Yahweh told Abraham about land....people call them promises and promise land but the word promise...

Because it did not exist during the New Testament. During the New Testament the Jews did not have a country or kingdom. They were under the rule of Romans.

ISRAEL DID NOT EXIST DURING THE NEW TESTAMENT!!! Any reference to it is metaphorical. Gentile-Christians are not part of Judaism or Israel.

Israel was conquered by the Assyrians and reestablished after the 6 day war.

Exactly.....it is a concept, a thought.

I understand....I don't think that you understand. When the scriptures talk about the body of Christ, they are not talking about a giant Christ walking around with Christians attached to him. It is metaphorical.

ISRAEL DID NOT EXIST DURING THE NEW TESTAMENT!!! Any reference to it is metaphorical. Gentile-Christians are not part of Judaism or Israel. And do you think you can find a Christian church called Church of Israel?

Exactly.....For not all who are descended from Israel are Israel. ISRAEL DID NOT EXIST DURING THE NEW TESTAMENT!!! Any reference to it is metaphorical. Gentile-Christians are not part of Judaism or Israel. If you notice there is no Christian church called The Church of True Israel or Spiritual...