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The passage is to the anointed, saying that some will have tribulation all of their life, but with assurance that God has not forsaken them, but will make good on his promise of eternal life.

Thanks for explaining, but it is as I expected: But there is no "first physical resurrection." Which is not in contradiction to the verses that you posted, but in accord, as born again of a completely different body. As the word for "renew" is also defined simply, as "new." Which I do not say...

You are going in circles to defend your Original Post point that some Christians, "Basically they believed the grace of God was like a license to sin." Which almost no one actually believes. The issue here, though you seem to insist upon beating around the bush, is that apparently you do not...

Semantic again. The greater biblical theme shows the flesh being against the spirit. It would seem that you are denying this. Why are you defending the "flesh" which is born of this world and condemned?

Semantics. But it would appear that you are attempting to make a case for glorified flesh...which is not biblical. The spirit returns to God who gave it, and the flesh returns to the dust and is destroyed with the elements of this world.

Indeed God created mankind. But after the fall the human race born of and following Adam and Eve, are, as it is written: of the their father the devil. Thus, regarding the Original Post, those coming into Christ (Christians) were before children of the devil.

It is all of Jesus' doing from the beginning to the end of time. The 3.5 years of His ministry is simply the personification of Christ made manifest according to the years of a man, fulfilling prophecy. He who was and is of God was made manifest in the one man Jesus Christ in His time, showing...

Daniel's prophecy refers to 70 weeks, or seven times x 10 (10 meaning all), referring to and elaborating the 7-day creation account which is a foreshadowing of everything to follow and all of time from beginning to end. Daniel then equates the 7 to 3 times or as being made up of 3 segments, in...

I wasn't giving my thoughts, but rather stating what is true. Your question certainly do offer help in reasoning ones way through understanding the passage. I am sure it is helpful.

The evenings and mornings refers to the foreshadowing given in the days of creation, where all the evenings and mornings refer to all of time. Spiritually, "twenty three hundred" or "two thousand and three hundred" days, means: All of the darkness and all of the light--earth and heaven are...

Paul is not saying that bearing children means salvation for women. The passage is a real life parable that women can participate in by example. That is what it is, it is an example. Understand that much of the life experiences of former generations was given by God to those who follow, that...

Let me first make it perfectly clear, that I am not advocating for the group you engaged with or for a life of sin. But your line of reasoning or logic is completely backwards, and wrong. Actually, biblically, the body is indeed of the devil (born of sin and the father of sin), and the spirit...

All paths are superseded by the One path. If you very from it, which you have--it is you who are "a troll."

There are countless matters and details and steps leading unto all truth and to finishing the great mysteries of God. The details however are not the issue, as in the case of the missing passage in John 5, but only contribute to the end being fashioned by God. In which case, when confronted...

Not true. I found you off the path and gave redirection. If that offends you, so be it.

He was not the object or student, but spoke out as a babe. He did not need help, but was given the question that the passage should be heard again. Thank you for sharing it! As for him, telling him that the time had not yet come for the passage to be fully revealed, is correct.

Oh sure, I could do that. Or I could answer this post question by getting to the heart of the problem. Which I did.

Does The Bible Allow Slavery? It is rather God who has allowed slavery. Not because it's good or okay--heaven forbid! But rather because the world needed to understand slavery, to live it, to feel it, to suffer it...in order to determine that slavery is not good, and that we should therefore not...

Are Christians Better Off Being Ruled By Unbelievers? That is not really the question or option that God has set before every person and generation. What He has set before us all, is rather to choose between "life or death, blessing or cursing." It's really that simple. Christians ought to vote...

I would say to the student, "Many words from God are given before their time, only to be revealed when the times are fulfilled." In the case of John 5:4, this is that time and healing has come. You are the student.