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Amen , wisdom indeed. The thing is “everyone” believes that what ‘they’ believe the bible to be saying, is in fact “The Truth”. So, who is casting the first stone here? Who is saying- “ What and how ‘I’ believe is correct , so that brother , or that sister is in error and a heretic, “...

Amen, very good point, if it were a “ common faith “ as you say....we could then proxy for our unsaved friends and family. Hey, let’s go and start a new denomination and preach “common faith”:D

@bbyrd009 45 years ago some of us preached in what is called "Speaker Corner" in London...on soap boxes. In the crowed was always hecklers. Mark, that is what you are beginning to sound like...a repetitive heckler. We were used to them...we preached 'over them'. Plus, you are wearing out...

Wake up, why pick that one... ..........every country is full of them, even though you may not hear of them. Nothing new under the sun.

Yep, you are alone. That should tell you something. 14 pages of this junk and 680 posts by you...and you have convinced no one at all about you own personal doctrine that some devils sold you and you swallowed it hook line and sinker. And it changes not one thing about anyones salvation...

Question Why have you checked the box on your profile calling yourself a Christian. By reading all your posts , you obviously do not believe that a Christian is a person who obeys, loves and follows God in their daily life. Washed in The Blood of The Lamb? Do you have a solid...

You said it clearer that I did. :p 'To the Victor go the spoils. '

Because The Judge collects the debt payable... ?

Yes. I guess we could really spin this off sideways by saying. If God did not set the whole ball of wax into motion , they why did he place the serpent in the midst of the Garden? It was God who allowed him right there no flaming swords to keep him out! I think we have to see beyond the...

( @justbyfaith ) YES, I can agree there...because it was not the Devil but GOD who laid the judgement of Adam upon mankind. So legally God collected the debt of the price of sin. If we that believe the God was in Jesus Christ reconciling the world to Himself ...'He died', He paid the price...

@Enoch111 said ↑ === Does it look like the conclusion ( once again) is not 'Either v Or' , but that both are correct...because they are! The head and tail of of the same elephant. Or better yet, the front and the back of the same tapestry.

Amen. Good post. Agree. But do not expect too many 'amen's they wont come. I have not quite worked out what part of 'LOVED the world' people don't like. But , they don't.

Rant on... :) You prove my point...WITHIN the Church there is a gem..the Bride. Not all walk in triumph. Not all walk in love. Just read some posts on the site...some are rude, sneering, condemning...not really attributes which draw anyone to Christ! Not spoken ( written) in the spirit of...

God has never give man the choice of "staying yourself". There has never been three choices, 1) mine , 2) God's 3) Satan's. There has never been a black , white, and a grey. God say "Choose, serve Me or serve Satan. " If we are not serving God, then we are by default , serving the other.

Sorry, I have only just sen this..not sure it showed up in my alerts. I guess what I was trying to say was sin is not always a deliberate choice. Case in point...a preacher friend of ours allowed himself to fall under depression. His wife was a nag. The group of preachers we flowed with...

Amen. Well said...as was @brakelite 's post too.

Funny...when I just posted that verse from Ezekiel I had not read this one of yours. Agree, the Body is very sick...sick unto death right now...and very very dry! Only the breath of God touching the bones will prove/show who will rise to their feet and be ONE army, ONE Body. And as @APAK...

The body is to be one, but when and how do we become a part when does our part join with the whole? When a person really is born again [born from above] would he already be a part? Before such a born again person is completely an overcomer as Jesus was an overcomer at the end of His course, how...

I hope as I read down this thread that you do some of your 'wondering' out loud. :)