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    For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return

    Jesus brings them (living spirit/soul) with Him from heaven. Where the spirits of just men dwell after their body becomes a corpse. Hebrews 12:22-23 (KJV) But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels...
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    The Resurrection is Bodily

    Yes, I'm not disagreeing with you. Soul is identified by the spirit alive in mankind. And soul is identified as the whole human with body + spirit = living soul. As long as the body lives we are living souls. Where life is found, whether of our body or our spirit through the Spirit of Christ...
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    The Resurrection is Bodily

    How could the spirit of Lazarus ascend to heaven with life before Christ atoned for sin, and defeated death by His cross and resurrection? If Lazarus' spirit ascended to heaven at the moment his body died, then it would have been in silence and darkness until Christ called him back from death...
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    The Resurrection is Bodily

    When you look at Genesis 2 and see how God created man from the dust of the earth (body) breathed into them the breath of life (spirit) that man became a living soul. The spirit is that which gives life to our physical bodies, and a soul is what we become when we possess LIFE. Show proof text...
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    The Resurrection is Bodily

    Mankind shall not possess immortality until the physical body is resurrected and changed from mortal to immortal and corruptible to incorruptible. And only then IF that person died in faith believing in Christ for eternal life. If we do not obtain eternal spirit life through the life of Christ...
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    The Resurrection is Bodily

    Actually the definition of soul is body + spirit = living soul. Man's spirit indwelt with the Holy Spirit of Christ is also called a living (spirit) soul after the body dies, and being filled with life through Christ's Spirit, in heaven that man's spirit is called a soul. The way to understand...
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    Our souls apart from our bodies

    You seem to be confusing 'eternal' life with 'immortal'. That which is immortal (God alone) and that which shall be immortal (the resurrected bodies of faithful saints) means un-decaying, indestructible in essence. The immortal God is the beginning and the end, the first and the last, in Him...
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    Our souls apart from our bodies

    The spirit in man is the breath of life with which our body lives! The spirit is our control center. It operates every function of our body, and sends messages from our brain and heart, and circulatory system. Without the breath of life our spirit gives us, our body would be a corpse, never...
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    Our souls apart from our bodies

    No one is arguing against the belief that when this natural, mortal, corruptible body dies it is the end of physical existence. The physical body of believers will not be alive again until it is resurrected to immortality and incorruptible when the last trump sounds. That's when time given...
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    Our souls apart from our bodies

    And through it's use over the many, many decades has eternally saved more people than your NWT can ever begin to! You want to talk about bias, perhaps an honest evaluation of a translation that did not exist before the 1800's, and originated from so-called faithful men, you would do well to...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Our physical body is destined to life on the new earth. As flesh & blood we will not inherit the Kingdom of God in heaven. When our body dies we will ascend to heaven a celestial/heavenly being like the angels. Our physical bodies will not change from mortal to immortal and corruptible until...
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    For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return

    Last but not least I hope I have clearly shown whoever reads here that participation in the "first resurrection" must be during our lifetimes on this earth. We partake of the first resurrection through partaking of Christ, who is "the resurrection and the life." Christ tells us "Ye must be...
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    For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return

    Let's look at Rev 20 from another perspective. Revelation 20:4-5 (KJV) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither...
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    For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return

    Yes, I don't think we have disagreement about the bodily resurrection that shall come when the last trump sounds. Notice I did not say "second" resurrection, because Scripture says there is a "first resurrection" that one must have part in to overcome the second death. And then there shall be...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    This is so TRUE! Only the human body of Christ ceased to have life, but the spirit (breath of life) that all humans have ascended to the Father in heaven. Then three days later Christ's spirit returned to His body of flesh and His body was then raised immortal. This is important to understand...
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    The Resurrection is Bodily

    This shows very good understanding of the parable, and my saying "story" doesn't deny that. I really cannot disagree with anything you've said here. But I'm wondering how your understanding of the parable, you explain very well, gives me any insight into how you differentiate between the...
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    Our souls apart from our bodies

    Did or does not Christ say, "whoever lives and believes in Him shall never die"??? Remember Christ said this after knowing Lazarus had physically died. Even though Lazarus was dead, Christ gave us assurance that he would live because the life we have in Christ is eternal. Clearly Christ is not...
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    Our souls apart from our bodies

    And I can say the same to you. You can believe Christ but first you must know what He taught, not what JW's and their NWT have falsely taught you is truth. Yes, the body returns to dust from which it was created, BUT the spirit returns to God who gave it (Ecc 12:7). The question we must each...
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    Our souls apart from our bodies

    I prefer to use a translation of Holy Writ that has already withstood the test of time. John 11:21-27 (KJV) Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died. But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee. Jesus saith unto...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    In that we can agree! I too am happy to be finished with this discussion with you. Your arguments in this discussion are repeatedly based on 1Cor 15, and you making the same assumptions again and again. You brought not supporting verses to prove the assumptions you made, and I did. It's fine...