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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Another assumption on your part!
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    What point are you trying to make? When we quote the whole verse, we find "he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin". Although He was made sin for us, He still knew no sin. That means as David said, Christ remained sinless. 2 Corinthians 5:21 (KJV) For he hath made him to be...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    But you seem not to believe that physical death does not equate to death of our spirit. Premills don't believe Satan has been bound, nor do they believe we ascend to heaven spiritually alive when our body becomes a corpse when we die in Christ. 1 Corinthians 6:16 (KJV) What? know ye not that...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    The only enemy not destroyed through the advent of Christ coming to earth a man, is physical death. Scripture shows us that Satan, sin and death have been, not shall be, defeated by Christ's sinless human life, His sacrificial atoning death, and His glorious resurrection. When He comes again...
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    For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return

    How do you distinguish between the dead, and the living? What does Christ mean when He says, "whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall NEVER die"? John 11:26 (KJV) And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? Every human is destined to physical death...
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    For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return

    Since you disagree about when and how we partake of the first resurrection in life, would you mind giving me your understanding of the words of Christ from Jo 5:24-29? You seem to understand the bodily resurrection that shall come in an hour coming, when the last trumpet sounds and time shall...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    You're not taking into account what Paul said before this. Paul writes that since Christ has risen from the dead those who had already fallen asleep in Him have not perished. But are in fact of His resurrection (the first resurrection) through Him. He writes that Christ is the firstfruits of...
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    Our souls apart from our bodies

    If this were true, we should not believe the words of Christ when He said, "whosoever lives and believes in me, shall NEVER die". Our body having life through the spirit in them is a complete living soul. Our body dies and is sown in the earth a corpse. But the spirit giving life to every man...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Ok, I get what you're saying, and I don't disagree with it. I'm thinking that the physical body of Christ, like all human beings must have both natural body of flesh and a natural spirit like all mankind to be fully human. But I think you're right because I agree that He always existed via...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    To be fully human Christ would be born with a body and a spirit to give His body physical life which would make Him a living soul like every other human being. That which is unique to Christ alone was being conceived by the Holy Spirit, which none others are, and that IMO makes Him also fully God.
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    For dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return

    You had my attention, and mostly agreement until this! You've given a sound accounting for what becomes of man's flesh & bones after death. There is no more hope for obtaining eternal spiritual life through Christ after our body breathes its last. Our body then is a mere corpse in silence and...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Flesh & blood, nor mortal, corruptible man can inherit the Kingdom of God in heaven or the new earth, is probably the way I should have phrased it. Christ though flesh & blood entered both the earth and heaven physically as you have shown. That was so that we might believe that our spirit...
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    Our souls apart from our bodies

    I would say it slightly different. That which is called a soul, is a soul wherever there is LIFE. It can be physical life or life of our spirit, nonetheless where there is life we are called living souls.
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    Our souls apart from our bodies

    But the spirit in man does survive the death of our body IF we have the Holy Spirit in us. The spirit returns to God with life after our body dies as "living soul" IF we died in Christ and possess His Spirit in us. All spirits return to God who gave them after our body dies, but only the...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Yes it does! Christ and the Father are ONE according to His words. John 10:30 (KJV) I and my Father are one. John 1:1-4 (KJV) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    No, God did not change Jesus' nature when He became human. Christ NEVER ceased being indwelt with the Holy Spirit which is what made Him fully God as well as being fully human without sin.
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Yes, God prepared the body of flesh & bones with a spirit that gave His body life for Christ to inhabit while clothed in human flesh on this earth. His body was prepared through the Holy Spirit that He was procreated through.
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    Flesh & bones cannot inherit the Kingdom of God in heaven, neither can corruption and I would add nor do mortal beings. The Kingdom of God is heaven above the heavens we see with natural sight. Heaven is the dwelling habitation of spirit beings, angels of God, and the spirits of just men made...
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    I have noticed the following Negatives about the 'rapture'...

    While I agree spirits can possess a human body, and Jesus was not possessing the body He was in. Yes, Jesus was fully human. But what you do not acknowledge is that Jesus was procreated/conceived by God, the Holy Spirit. Being fully human Jesus was flesh & bones, and He had a spirit that gave...
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    Preterism misrepresents Scripture

    Let me first say that I am not saying anything to you to be offensive. If it comes off that way it is not intentional so please accept my apologies. I'm going to try to say this one more time another way. I believe that Paul is teaching that when those who are in Christ die, our natural...