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Dont know. All I do know is there is a separation of unbelievers and believers after this life, unless John is wrong. Its come to my understanding though Esau would be the guy who could hunt a mans man, so to speak while Jacob may have been a nerd in the house watching cartoons. Either way...

We definitely differ in our viewpoints in that area, that is alright. That is interesting. Anyway, to you both @St. SteVen and @Patrick1966 All the best, I believe this topic has been went through pretty well for the most in my opinion. I could be wrong about it all; but hey, all we have...

It's good to think. I am a mindless person. Thank you for the conversation, Steven, Matthew

Probably but they would be willingly to express there faith to individuals rather than gripping about the church and start sharing jesus, but also give warnings to be careful of going to such things. No. I dont even go to church. Thank you for your answer. It's amazing when people come to...

Sorry, I dont submit to man-made imagery like this my friend. I just try to stick with the word cause it's all I got, you are free to do what you want though. Thank you for the conversation, Patrick, Matthew

@Patrick1966, There seems eternal consequences though, the spiritual body of the unbeliever may not be able to dwell so well in the light. Revelation 22:14 Blessed are those who [g]do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the...

@Patrick1966, *edited The Last Enemy Destroyed 20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have [d]fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be...

Oh I am sorry I misread, @Patrick1966. However, some of us will go the nice and easy was and others will have to go through "fire & brimstone" to get there. That is something I believe too. The fire is eternal coming from God that is in the front of the angels and the Lamb, and it's something...

Patrick1966, You seem to be someone who fights against the lake of fire, but its something that needs to be explained. Or maybe its something you have yet to really question? How do you explain it? How would you explain it to a widow, who pulled out there bible and talked about her husbands...

Did you know from the fulfillment perspective and looking at revelation 21-22. Everyone in the world has been saved from sin, death, hell, satan, the false prophet, the beast and the wrath of God? Just not everyone is saved to the Kingdom because of the choices people decide, either to be born...

However, @St. SteVen There have been many sons of God, who were faithful to the true and living God of the living who created the universe. Adam was one of the first but then, they (Adam and Eve) died spiritually, the only one we hear after they left the Garden is Eve. She was thankful for...

Or can we even trust what John writes, Saying “But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God. They are reborn—not with a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan, but a birth that comes from God.” ‭‭John‬ ‭1‬:‭12‬-‭13‬ ‭NLT‬‬...

Steven, Adam was one of the first people to have relationships with God, but we never hear from him again. He also died spiritually the day him and eve left the Garden. It then begs the question, can we even trust what Paul states about being adopted. Are not all people creations of God? Then...

Hope to hear what your thoughts are on post #85, #87, @St. SteVen. Have a good afternoon.

That wasnt an answer to my question.

Patrick1966 I never heard devin ever say anything like that, are there people on the board claiming that Jesus is unforgiving, and sadistic?

With the notion of Prison, I believe Freedom to have life out side of that is a type of Paradise And those in Jail are in the separated part of Paradise which is having confiment like Jonah in the whale The free and imprisoned still have interaction. The police man that goes home, but the...

Okay, Steven. okay. Okay. Fairly and rightly. Got some more questions on post #85 #87. Thank you for summing up those things. Justice is served for sure in this life through punishment in prison; however while some are saved through those means, there still those who reject. Can eternal...

Another question is all of mankind Children of God? Or are people adopted by faith? “The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead, lives in you. And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you. Therefore, dear...

Another question, There was a remark somewhere stating Atheist even believe in God, however if they claim there is no God, there was no Son of God, and they simply go on about there own way, even with the natural elements of the world from the universe, which claim the glory of God. Is it fair...