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Some misunderstanding here. What does a translation have to do with this? Are you saying that a translation could change the MEANING of any given verse? I believe YOU are speaking about the Kingdom of David. Jesus is speaking about the Kingdom of God here on earth, right now, and established by...

Ditto. Learn to read and accept what JESUS taught. Stop twisting scripture to suit what you THINK is correct teaching. You've been heavily influenced by heretical teachings that were not in the church at the time of Jesus, Paul or any of the other writers. And YOU are the one with long-winded...

You do believe in SOLA FIDE, which is a new teaching. And is different than faith alone for salvation. If faith is sufficient for salvation please explain why Paul states that faiths saves -which indeed it does - and then goes on in every letter of his to DESCRIBE what a Christian life should...

Jesus does not agree with you. John 15:1-2 1 "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 "Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. Please notice that the branch- the believer - in...

@mailmandan always assumes the other member "doesn't get it". That's rather prideful... as if it cannot be HIM that is "not getting it".

If you're speaking about SOLA FIDE, then I agree. Sola Fide was NEVER taught in the early church and was not until the reformation. ALL the ECFs understood that good deeds were part of salvation... Jesus Himself taught this and why not? Did Jesus not say that the Kingdom of God was at hand? On...

No obedience. No salvation. Jesus taught that the fool does not ACT on the WORDS OF JESUS. The storm came. The house fell. Matthew 7:26-27 26 "Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 "The rain fell, and the...

Please pay attention Proverbs: 2 Timothy 2:12 12 If we endure, we will also reign with Him; If we deny Him, He also will deny us; IF we ENDURE we will also reign with Him. If we DENY HIM, He will also deny us. 13 If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot * deny Himself. IF we...

Agreed. The parable of the Prodigal Son, taught by Jesus, is a great tool for understanding that salvation can be lost. Let's look at it together. The Prodigal son leaves home and is given ALL that his father owes to him. 2/3 of the total inheritance went to the older son. The father now owes...

Then apparently you don't really understand what OSAS means. ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED It means that once a person accepts Jesus,,, they will be saved forever.... no matter what they do or do not do. This is not what Paul taught or Jesus or Peter or any of the writers. If you could find some...

You forgot to post scripture that states that we can sin and still get to heaven.

You are not properly understanding 2 Timothy 2:13. If you were right, it would obviously contradict 2 Timothy 2:12 Actually You are in the minority. But it's OK...keep gambling with your salvation. Ignore Paul, Jesus and all the writers. Good night.

Again, for the millionth time NO Christian believes they are saved by good works. Must be a difficult concept. So must we obey Jesus or not AFTER salvation? Jesus said we must.

Unfortunately for you Dan... We are saved FOR GOOD WORKS. Ephesians 2:8-10 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good...

Before you wish me a good day... how about providing some scripture to prove your point. You won't find any. Because what you're saying is that a person could go back to living a life of sin and still be saved. If you could post some scripture that states this....it would be helpful to this...

That's very nice of you Proverbs. It's wonderful how Christians treat each other. What do you think the following means? It was written by Paul. Colossians 1:21-23 21 And although you were formerly alienated and hostile in mind, engaged in evil deeds, 22 yet He has now reconciled you in His...

What does God say?

?? I never said God leaves anyone. I said that some persons decide to leave God. IF someone leaves God, he is back in the same situation he was in BEFORE salvation... he becomes lost.

KUWN I'll let nedsk reply,,,but your question does imply a misunderstanding of the Catholic position on salvation of the person. I DO wonder at the source of this incorrect belief.

Agreed. Eternal salvation for as long as we want it. Some decide to leave the faith.