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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    I'm not thinking of hell in Medieval terms, just trying to look at it biblically. Hell in the bible is Hades, Gehenna, death, the grave. A place of torment for a period time, but not necessarily forever (as I tentatively consider)....just until the second death, which is death of the soul at...
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    The story of Abigail and Nabal is coming to mind this morning, and the lessons we are to learn from that, oh my! David being a type of Christ, our Lord and King. Nabal, being a foolish man, had no fear of David and did not give him what was rightfully due to him........Abigail having fear and...
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    It's not like that. Fear of the Lord is giving Him what is rightfully due to Him......because He is utterly worthy. Extortion is taking what is not due to you. God only wants from us what is rightfully His.....we have been bought with a price......and giving Him His due is for our good. It's...
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Compared to God, we are nothing. What a marvel and a blessing that He loves us. "What is man that He is mindful of us?" (says the bible) Not because of who we are, but because of who He is. Oh yes, that should be OUR attitude. It occurs to me you might not know the bible very well so I'm...
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Myself I tentatively am leaning to the view that the lake of fire/second death, means death/annihilation of the soul, not eternal torment. "Fear Him who can destroy both body and soul in hell". "The wages of sin is death."
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Rom 9:18-24 Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens. You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me...
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    No, you're thinking like a man, humanistically....but God's ways are higher. He tests hearts to see who really has faith in Him. Like when Jesus spoke about needing to eat His body and drink His blood....knowing that would be very offensive to many of the Jews at that time, and many stopped...
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    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    It's not "my" scripture, but the Lord's. And you had requested it. And now rather than acknowledging it, you seem to be rejecting it and deflecting. I don't think I will try to explain what those things mean, sister. I know you would have difficulty with it because of your OSAS belief. You...
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    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    it's not just about entering though. Once having entered the narrow gate, if we carry on living in this world, we now need to WALK on the narrow path. It matters how we walk.
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Of course sincere seekers are welcome to seek. But we need to understand that fellowship is not the same thing as answering inquiries and ministering to lost souls in hopes that they will be saved. And if the word of God and true gospel is being preached, however kindly and lovingly, or...
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    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Should I bring a helmet or an umbrella, lol! Without reading past the second page I'm guessing OSAS is at the bottom of most of it.....it always causes contention.
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    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    Amen. Good topic. Just realized this thread is 50 pages long, so probably I'm only repeating what others have said....but just wanted to put my two cents i the pot......that obedience and being on the narrow way that leads to life go hand in hand. If we're living in utter disobedience to God...
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    Abiding In Christ Necessary for Eternal Life

    It doesn't have to be the exact same words as long as it is accurately conveying the right idea. But it happens in this case, scripture does mention supply of the Spirit in those exact words: Phl 1:18-20 What then? notwithstanding, every way, whether in pretence, or in truth, Christ is...
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    David's heart sure burned hot for the Lord and His word...should read that whole Psalm. Psa 119:9-11 How can a young man keep his way pure? By keeping it according to Your word. With all my heart I have sought You; Do not let me wander from Your commandments. I have treasured Your word in my...
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Simply means to resist temptation. That's not scary. Teach folks how to resist temptation. God has provided a way of escape. There doesn't have to be a formula. I know that's what is often taught though. The Lord may lead that way, but not in every instance. Where do we see Jesus in...
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    It happens when they receive Christ. Of course they are forgiven then. And received into fellowship. But not until then. Fellowship is not really something we DO so much, but rather it's more something that born again believers HAVE with one another....if we have Christ in us by His Spirit...
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Yes, and the first step after coming to faith in Christ is to begin resisting the devil and he will flee from you. Not be taught that it's ok to keep living according to your former conversation with lust and darkness etc. We get tested....our faith must be proven. Strengthen and encourage...
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Very true. :) Sometimes what the devil means for evil, God means for good.
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Amen....it's wonderful that there are prison ministries and ministries to LGBT folks........praise God for that. As long as we remember what Jesus said about it being the TRUTH that sets one free.
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    WWJD with LGBTQ?

    Hmmm. Well let's start with the Holy SPIRIT, for starters. And the things that can only be spiritually discerned? Then there is the kingdom (realm) that is within/among us.....can you see it, touch it, or taste it? And New Jerusalem...the city that is ABOVE...? What about the powers and...