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Of course Jesus was God, but He emptied Himself and humbled Himself to walk as a servant..... ie, to walk as a man, in that He relied on God and obeyed Him the same as we mere mortals have to do. He accomplished what He did as a man who obeyed God and whose power came from God.....in order that...

I don't know if we are talking about the same things or not. But I consider Jesus who left His glory and deity behind so to speak to come live on this earth as a man (yet without sin) who obeyed the Father and submitted to and relied on, the Holy Spirit....setting the example for us. Yet...

Even Jesus had to die bodily before He could be resurrected. The power to walk as He did is within and upon us. We have it already, but is a matter of how much of what we have are we manifesting and walking in. The flesh wars against the spirit and there are distractions of earthly...

You aren't comprehending because you're compartmentalizing things of the SPIRIT.

Amen, we do taste it....scripture says so.

It's too bad you can't see what those scriptures are saying. Sad that you have ship-wrecked your own FAITH by what you erroneously believe. Looks to me as though you are projecting your own incorrect understanding of your own experience onto Paul and what he said. If Paul had remained in the...

Yes, we are seated in heavenly places right now. We were translated into the kingdom of light when we were born again. And yet at the same time we are also on our way there. Go figure. The carnal mind can't comprehend the yes but not necessarily yet things because they are spiritual...

Don't entirely disagree...the grave.....and what will happen to this earth in the end?....and what does destruction of the soul mean? No eternal life. It is clear in the bible that not all will inherit eternal life Epi. As much as we may wish otherwise. And in my human emotions I do often...

Christ is Christ. There is only one Christ, whether in our jars of clay or in heaven or anywhere. You're compartmentalizing again (aka carnal mind).

Amen. He doesn't like the hell word either and negates that anyone will end up there....and is unable to assemble any scriptures to back up his belief. Direct contradiction of the bible since there are a lot of references and warnings about hell/Gehenna/sheol. Place of the DEAD, which the...

Unbelievable what he is saying. Christ is Christ. As long as it is Christ. The devil sure is determined to try and dig out the foundation.

I am not judging anyone. That is one of your fallacious accusations that you bring because you're unable to support what you are saying with God's word. And remember that Jesus said it is HIS words that will judge them on the last day. I merely share His words and do so for the same reasons...

Slippery? Hmm, I'm not the one slinking away from the word of God. And it's HIS word you are fighting against.

You accused me of having self confidence in my self esteem and I'm telling you you're perception is wrong. So now you come back with more accusations. Instead of bringing the word of God your answer to everything is to accuse and rebuke. The solution is Christ in us the hope of glory....why...

Huh? What confidence? What self-esteem? The truth is the only thing that gives me the strength and hope to go on. I feel pared back to the bare bones sometimes, or almost there, not even knowing how to "be" alive, because there is not much left of the old false me that I used to rely on to...

Not relying on a past experience, but on the Living Christ who lives in me now this moment, and has been in me ever since the past experience of receiving Him. We are to pay the price for following Him, sowing to the Spirit, obeying His word and His personal leading, that is how we invest the...

Oh but His truth is revealed to those who are His, and hid from those who aren't. Or who have been deceived and fallen away from sound doctrine.

Then you better bring the scriptures that teach what you are saying and which go along with your reasoning. Because what I read in the inspired word of God is that the wages of sin is death......and that there is a second death for those who die in their sins. What does the second death imply...

I just don't have time to focus and try to unpack all this right now. Father died recently and daughter's wedding is in two weeks and I'm rather overwhelmed. Just will say you are still compartmentalizing and not preaching/teaching in the same vein and SPIRIT as did Jesus and the apostles...

The carnal mind is of the flesh, it is fettered and limited and unable to perceive the things of the SPIRIT, thus can't help but keep compartmentalizing. It isn't one or the other......if Christ is in us (His Spirit) then we are in Him and vice versa. HIS SPIRIT is the indescribable gift...