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I have to point out some inaccuracies here, if you don't mind. 1. Jesus died for the sins of the whole world. So the scope of redemption is beyond the elect. The elect saints are to rule over the nations in the next age. But it is God who justifies. The saved don't know they are saved. There...

Of further interest here is that Hab. 2:4 as it is in the LXX is cited in Heb. 10:38 but in reverse order. "If he draws back, my life does not find pleasure in it, but the righteous one will live by my faith." Hab. 2:4 LXX "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul...

Hello to all on this fine day! :) I'd like to pursue the purpose of this thread with another interesting discrepancy between the LXX and the modern translations that in circulation today. It concerns the very popular Hab. 2:4 which reads... "Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright...

Another example of the LXX being the source of NT quotes is from Heb. 10:5 "Wherefore when he comes into the world, he says, Sacrifice and offering you would not, but a body have you prepared me.....:" KJV This NT quote is found in Ps. 40:6 which reads... "Sacrifice and offering you did not...

I would say mostly. But there are divergences based on what the translators believed....so there is a bias. And Hebrew as a language can be very vague (no vowels) and is very difficult to translate meanings from...since there are word-formulas in the text that can be either bad or...

OK. I'll start with a basic one that is a direct quotation from the LXX that appears in our NT but which has been altered in our modern OT's. The first example is... "And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?" 1 Pet. 4:18 KJV That verse is a quote...

I don't know why its taken me this long to get to a detailed study of the Septuagint..but that has been my quest so far this year. And it has really paid off! The Septuagint (LXX) is a very important tool for deeper bible study. The LXX WAS the bible of the early church. Many of the references...

Agreed. The sheep goat judgment concerns the Great White Throne judgment of the nations. This is not the judgment of the house of God. If that were the case Jesus would have said...these YOUR brethren...not these MY brethren. So then they are judged by their righteous behaviour (or not) towards...

Welcome here Alan! :)

Praying for you sister... <><

And finally from French folk singer Francis Cabrel...a song about the universality of love..called...Je t'aimais, Je t'aime et Je t'aimerai" or..."I loved you, I love you, and I will love you."

I hear this song from "medieval sounding" folk group Malicorne from France as a gathering of individual roses into a bouquet...like individuals become one in the Lord's hand. The song is "Marions les roses" (Marry the roses)

The only universality is the temporal struggle we all experience in this life....ici bas sur la terre!

Religion is a box that people put God in...without understand God's judgment or His ways. And people justify themselves by locating themselves in that box...checking off the "salvation" box. Not realizing they have put themselves into religious bondage. But with understanding comes an endless...

Exactly! Like the words that Peter used to "comfort" Jesus. Jesus said...get behind Me Satan. Our yes is to be yes and our no is to be no...all else is from the devil...and the carnal nature that is empowered by it.

You are confusing analogies and cultural indicators from outside the bible with changing the meaning of biblical words AWAY from their meaning. There is a difference between gathering and scattering. A tropaion is a real historical symbol that in no way diminishes the value of the cross being a...

Yes. We always hold out hope that THIS time, they see the bigger picture and get a better reading on who they are in it. The most difficult, and annoying, ones. are those who try to adapt their language (wording) to how they describe their condition...rather than allow the words of God convict...

...or even impute God's righteousness to ourselves. It's all the same bag. Take the bible...now apply any nice sounding things to our own self-love. Anything negative is for others. Just follow the logic to its inevitable conclusion. I have had people red in the face tell me that they have...

Do we need more self-esteem or self-love...or more humility and selflessness, in order to hear and understand the truth? What is the popular religious culture telling us? When numbers are the goal, which agenda do people follow? Who or what are we being faithful to? God, or ourselves? Taking...

Whatever the case...teaching people to err on whatever side is still error. When walking on a high wire, falling off either side of the wire is still falling off. We can't take spiritual things in a whimsical way....and be taken seriously by God. A false balance is abomination with God ( a...