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There is a heavy judgment against the idle ones of Zion. We are born again into a race....a desert walk towards possessing the Land. We are to seek first the kingdom of God. Only Jesus can say...It is finished. We are in a process of salvation. We are to work out our own salvation with fear and...

This is the religious mumbo-jumbo I was alluding to. "Even if it looks like we really aren't?" Talk about a departure from reality. Sin is sin. Calling sin something else than sin is not following the path of righteousness...but rather a way to formalize a religious escapism that denies the...

It's not about mind-games or make-believe but about the power of God to raise the dead to life. There's no need for religious mumbo-jumbo. It's not about words but the Spirit and power. Rom. 7 shows Paul saying he can't stop sinning. Is that your experience? Or was he not trusting his own words...

Of course Romans 6 isn't the same as Romans 8. Reckoning yourself to be dead to sin is good....we shouldn't think of ourselves as alive to sin. ...but it doesn't stop us from sinning entirely. For that to happen we need to go to the cross to have the outer man (ego) dealt with by the cross...

Only Jesus is sinlessly perfect. We take on HIS attributes by entering into Him. I have explained this like getting into an airplane. It is the airplane that overcomes gravity...not the individual. Likewise, it is by being IN Christ that we are made holy, righteous and pure...free from all spot...

This sounds more like a confession than an accusation. If we are cleansed of all sin by abiding in the resurrection life of Christ.....then...wait for it....there is such a thing as a walk without sin. :) But you will refute that very thing. You will contradict yourself as so many do here...who...

Bless your heart. I like your way of seeing things! :) For Jesus it was indeed a coming down. For us it is an ascending into His presence and love. However, we have an uncrucified nature at the beginning. The divine challenge of being born from above is to humble ourselves...as Jesus did. But...

Amen! And God bless you for your honesty. I went through the same things as you describe along my own path. I never got it right the first time. I always managed to take a wrong turn. But the Lord is good and faithful. He led Me into His dwelling place. I am still at a place of working things...

....become a reality???? This, of course, is a denial of the power of the cross to work in us at the present time. You speak in circles as so many here...claiming one thing and then another...with no consistency. So either you agree with Patrick that being born again is for a future age...where...

We are meant to "seek first" the kingdom of God and His righteousness. Surely that doesn't mean we are to seek to die physically.

What does it mean to be born again? Are we God's favourites without responsibility? Or are we become the people of God equivalent to the Jews?...and with the same risk of being cut off for lack of bearing the right kind of fruit?

I like this. Did you get this from Watchman Nee? And the angel could be seen as the Bishop of a certain city.

The church of God isn't limited to any man-made distinctive. It is a spiritual brotherhood. The church can't be humanly organized. So then what are the religious denominations about? They are about catering and compromising with the flesh in order to get at the deeper connection to God...

When Jesus said "I and My Father are one" He was making a statement on the level of the Shema...Bot Jesus and the Father are Echad (One) "Hear O Israel, the Lord our God (and) the Lord ARE One"

For a deeper look into the above we go to PS. 22...with the depiction of Jesus being crucified...with the words..."all my bones are out of joint"..in v. 15' In Hebrew this reads... ְהִתְפָּרְדוּ, כָּל-עַצְמוֹתָי There's the "atsmotay" (my bones, or, my essence) again...compare with the above...

This verse in Job is very telling...the KJV version of it is very obscure...basically meaningless. But the LXX version is very powerful. Notice the difference. "So that my soul chooses strangling, and death rather than my life." Job 7:15 KJV Compare that to the LXX version... "You will...

You obviously have a very high opinion of yourself and a very low opinion of the words of God. 1 John 2:2 “And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.” 1 Tim. 4:10 “For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we...

Take you hockey net off the road. :)

What we need is for Christians to be triggered back to Christ. We don't need religion....and we don't need to fill the pews with cultural religion. We need actual resurrection life to become the standard for the church as it was in the beginning. We need a return to the ancient paths. And that...