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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    As I have said, far be it from me to deprive you of your opinion... as if I could even do so... :) Calvinism is not a "religion." But, yeah, I ~ as a "five-point Calvinist" ~ wholeheartedly agree with you in principle concerning the blasphemy of God, that it's a definite no-no. :) Thanks...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    See, TEXBOW, this is the issue, really. God's predestination concerns His salvation. Hyper-Calvinists would say that His predestination extends to all facets of the human life, but this is quite ridiculous. God's salvation is what "depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Sure you do. No worries. LOL! What other authority is there than God Himself? My goodness. I have asked you before and I am now asking you yet again to show me ~ if you can ~ how you think I am misrepresenting God's Word. Or perhaps you just disregard God's Word altogether. Is that the...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Right. I thought so. :) And I responded accordingly. Grace and peace!
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    It's not a commandment. And I speak in the singular, because the two are part of the same thing. Jesus was making an exhortation. This is the general call of the Gospel. Well, I would say that if we do not respond positively to these two exhortations ~ which together constitute on call, or...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    It's really not worth quibbling over, but a requirement regarding salvation is not a command. But I'll allow it. :) Grace and peace to you.
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Ah, the 'whoever,' or 'whosoever.' There is some misunderstanding going on here, but... :) Do you know what Old Testament passage John is specifically referring to there, GG? Joel 2:32, specifically, but that whole passage includes verses 29-31. It says: “And it shall come to pass...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Well I know what you want it to look like, and that's the problem. But okay, I will respond to each one in order after your response. Really, I did so, but Ill do it like you want it (which is sort of silly): Me, too. Yes. But the issue really is ~ and some don't even realize it ~ autonomy...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Not in any way, shape, or form. I met all your questions head on, and pulled no punches. :) Okay, and I'm not debating that at all. Like I said, though, Calvinism/Schmalvinism; God's truth is God's truth... Thus, my focus on Scripture itself. Yes, you are, because you're making statements...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    It matters not, really, what the beliefs of Calvinism are ~ although they are (in part, anyway, because John Calvin talked about many things beyond the questions that you asked...) exactly as I delineated in detail above, exactly as I answered every single one ~ every single one ~ of your...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Is this a question? :) If so, the answer is no. Not at all. Yeah no. I agree. That's why it's amazing that so many folks, for one reason or another, attribute so many beliefs to John Calvin and Calvinists that are so antithetical to what John Calvin actually said and what Calvinists...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Agreed. This was my point, or one of them, anyway. Yes, hyper-Calvinism is not Calvinism at all, nor is it Biblical. But hyper-Calvinism is what many people, as evidenced by some of the posts by several here, are really reacting negatively to, without even realizing it, apparently. And ~...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Yes, that's a good idea. Let's. Here is at least part of the misunderstanding. Number 1, number 2, and number 3 are certainly true. But number 4 and number 5 are not commandments ~ a commandment being an order, a mandate, an edict, a law ~ of God. They are both part of a general call made...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    It's none of that. Calvinism is not abstruse, arcane, mysterious, complex, complicated, erudite, inscrutable or unfathomable for the common man. Grace and peace to you. It's really assigning things other than true Calvinism to Calvin and his exposition of Scripture. For various reasons...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Yes, but the fact is that they make the free will choice to serve Christ because they are Elect, and because they have been born again of the Spirit. Take a look at this little episode in John 10: "At that time the Feast of Dedication took place at Jerusalem. It was winter, and Jesus was...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    LOL! We Christians, Grailhunter, love because God first loved us, as John says in 1 John 4:19. Is John saying that love is somehow "forced" on us? Well no... :) But worship is the natural result of receiving God's love. Our chief desire becomes to love Him, and this love manifests itself...
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    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    If you read what Calvin stated again, you'll find that it's GOD that made the person THINK they were saved... Absolutely not. Calvin did not say that in any form or fashion, and God did no such thing. That would be attributable only to themselves, but somebody ~ Satan ~ probably helped that...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Well, I would say that they may have... and even Grailhunter may have... but they can't accept it, because it's anathema to them. But this is just pride and arrogance (something we can all be guilty of from time to time in various ways) rearing its ugly head in them. Hey, that's a pitfall...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    I see, so God is a "team member"... a "colleague"... LOL! No, God works through people ~ even those who hate him ~ and other... "stuff" (circumstances)... to achieve His purposes, which cannot be thwarted, for His own glory. That is what He has done throughout all of history and will continue...
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    John Calvin and Calvinism.

    Sure, I expected that would be your opinion. So be it. No Christian accuses God of evil. There is no "robot mentality." That's just demagoguery. In a real sense... well, I'll use two different passages of Scripture to make my point. Here's what God does: "...(God) says to Moses, 'I will...