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    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    The abyss is a spiritual prison that holds spiritual prisoners on a chain. Satan can move, hurt, kill, steal and destroy within his prison, but he cannot prevent the advance of the Gospel or hurt those Christ owns. The difference between a physical prison that you can see with the eye and a...
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I agree. What some start doing when confronted with the evidence is actually watering down what the ECFs are saying to try and support their initial false claims. They end up supporting the spiritualizing position.
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    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    For you to answer these honestly would totally dismantle your whole argument. That is why you constantly avoid! Your avoidance reinforces the Amillennial position.
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    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    Do you believe Satan and his minions are physical beings? Is the dragon in Revelation 20:2 a literal physical dragon? Is the serpent in Revelation 20:2 a literal physical serpent? Do you believe Satan literally has 7 heads and 7 necks? Is the key mentioned in Revelation 20:1 a literal metal door...
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    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    These are NOT “the children of God” (our brothers and sisters). These are those that are part of the visible church, they profess Christ, but they are not truly born again. They're not a new creature in Christ. Remember, many will say on that day "Lord, Lord." God's people possess eternal life...
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    With your teaching: there is nothing literal in Scripture. Everything is spiritualized away. Nothing is the way it seems. A clear plain straightforward reading of Scripture forbids your reasoning. 1 day being as a thousand years was a simile contrasting eternity with time. It is a comparing...
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Origen Alexandria, Egypt (AD 185-254) De Principiis Book IV. Chapter I.22. [T]here are certain souls in this world who are called Israel, and a city in heaven which is called Jerusalem, it follows that those cities which are said to belong to the nation of Israel have the heavenly Jerusalem...
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Hippolytus Rome, Italy (AD 170 – 236) Chapter 25 And this, he says, is what Moses asserts: "The earth was invisible, and unfashioned." This (substance) is, he says, the good (and) the heavenly Jerusalem, into which God has promised to conduct the children of Israel, saying, "I will bring you...
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    The Shepherd of Hermas Rome, Italy (written in AD 88-99) Fourth Vision Concerning the Trial and Tribulation that are to Come Upon Men. Chapter III I asked her about the four colours which the beast had on his head. And she answered, and said to me, “Again you are inquisitive in regard to such...
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    I will present Barnabas to start with: Barnabas Alexandria, Egypt (AD 70-120) Chapter 6 – The sufferings of Christ, and the new covenant, were announced by the prophets [T]he prophet proclaimed, “Enter ye into the land flowing with milk and honey, and have dominion over it.” Behold...
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Everything he has written reveals his total ignorance of the subject, yet he uses this as his foundation to debunk Amil. He has only succeeded in debunking his own thesis.
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    Amil can only be proved to be true if Amils accept all of the following terms and convincingly satisfy these terms.

    You can keep avoiding, but I will keep repeating. Hosea 6:1-3: “Come, and let us return unto the LORD: for he hath torn, and he will heal us; he hath smitten, and he will bind us up. After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight. Then...
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Do you know what "passive aggressive" is? Some people are uncomfortable with accountability.
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    You are trying to move the goal posts now and water down what you said. This is what you said: "There is no historical evidence that the allegorical method was to interpret the scriptures in the first 200 years or so after Jesus. Throughout the Gospels, Acts, and Paul's letters it is obvious...
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    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    I have no major objection to that.
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Bro, you started a thread making bold affirmative statements against Amil making claims about the ECFs that you have not been able to support or are prepared to withdraw. These were the basis of your whole thesis. Your whole argument is therefore moot.
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    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    I never said that it was the duty of the Church to overthrow the kingdoms of this world. That is what Christ will do when He comes. It is our calling to invade this dark world with the glorious gospel of Christ and see men set free from the bondage of sin.
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    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    Jesus reminded the religious unregenerate Jews who claimed to be Abraham’s offspring that they were of their father the devil. Basically, their outward profession was mere fizz-and-bubble. We see the same within the New Testament ekklesia. There are many that profess “Lord, Lord” but they do...
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    Premils won't understand the amil view until they understand this.

    I totally understand where you are coming from. There has always been the visible and invisible Church (gathering or assembly) since the beginning - the professors & possessors. The professors are all those who claim our God. The possessors are all those who God claims. The professors are a...
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    The Root question of Amillenial vs Premillenial

    Your error needs exposed/challenged. There are people watching on that are susceptible to this type of error. You have no basis for the Op in history or in facts. If you had it, you would present it.