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The first four seals are the beginning of sorrows. Matthew 24 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For...

I found the rapture video on page 2. So I saw your pastor is post tribulation. It was kind of funny when he said he was post tribulation, he said don't stop video, if you don't believe in a post tribulation rapture, you might learn something anyway. I watched several of the videos. He is really...

I don't see that correlation CadyandZoe. Have you ever noticed the difference in these two verses? Luke 21 12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's...

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, NO. That would be Amill. And what are you talking about as far as needing scripture. I have supplied scripture, after scripture, after scripture in other threads that proves what you are pushing is nonsense. What good does that do if the blind can't see?

Amillennialism in a nutshell. Cling to a single misunderstood verse despite the multitude of verses that say differently.

Ok. What leads you to this conclusion?

And I'm still waiting on you. Can you give me one single car part that I can use to build a Maserati that gets 70 miles a gallon.

I think it might possibly come from the NRSVA or NRSBMV In case you don't want to look it up, that would be New Revised Standard Version Anglican and the New Revised Standard Blind Man Version

Rev 13 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. You many have already covered this and I might have missed it, but HIS number. What's up with that?

It's not. But sadly he is not aware.

Luke 21: WHAT? 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. You can hang around. I hope to be standing before the Son of Man.

Not even the slightest chance. When those seals are opened you would know what tribulation is. Hopefully you will make the rapture that occurs before those seals are opened.

No. It's the plan of God. I won't waste the time proving it as it would be just that.

I don't believe this to be the case. I just went thru all this in a couple of threads about the decree to rebuild Jerusalem and the date of Christs death. I don't want to put words in your mouth, I'm just drawing a conclusion based on your statement. If I'm wrong set me straight. I think you...

The 70th week has not occurred yet. The Messiah was cut off after 69 weeks of seven. There are 7 years remaining.

Stop it. The woman is the nation of Israel. The seed of the woman are the 12 tribes across the earth. The 144,000 are 12,000 from each tribe male virgins....just like it says. If you guys would quit making things up because you don't understand, you would probably begin to understand.

Thanks for your comment. Your error is not understanding the translation of the Hebrew word shabuwa. This word can mean a period of 7 days or a period of 7 years which can be proven several places in the Old Testament one of which is when Jacob had to finish the week to get his chosen bride...

To him that overcometh is a future event just like.... Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown, is a future event. Let's not muddy the waters of truth. This kind of abstract reasoning is why so many do not understand the Word. Read what it says. It...

Hasn't happened yet, outside of few days. Messiah was cut off after the 69th week.

Symbolic? The 144,000 are symbolic of twelve thousand from each tribe just as it says. No need to try to make any guesses.