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Perfect - Greek `teleios,` mental and moral character, completeness of full age, man, perfect. Eph. 4: 13 `till we all come to the unity of the faith and the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect, (mature) man...` 1 Cor. 2: 6 `But we speak wisdom among those who are perfect, (mature)...

Our inheritance is to rule with Christ on His own throne in the third heaven overall. (Rev. 3: 21)

Yes I see `the Apostle`s Doctrine and in the temple,` all refer to Jewish believers in Jesus being both Lord and Christ, (Acts 2: 36) Still we read that the apostles also taught - `Repent, and let everyone of you be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and you shall...

It is in God`s word 1 Cor. 12: 28. I don`t personally have to see it function.

Because as we both agree the 12 Apostles before the Lord`s ascension were sent by the Lord to Israel. Israel could still repent and receive the Lord as their Messiah, Christ, but we read that they finally rejected what Paul was saying in Acts 28. And the 12 Apostles were promised that they...

We agree on so much. However, we may differ from this point of when the Body of Christ started. (if that is your question) I see that God still had His hand out to Israel to repent till we see them as the rulers (leaders of the Jews) not repent. (Acts 28: 3 - 28) Then we read that when the...

Yes, and yes, though with the proviso that the 12 Apostles did great wonders as a sign of their message concerning Christ to the Jews. Some Apostles today &/or ascension ministries do have healing/miracle works.

Hi rvmb, We agree on so much. However, we may differ from this point of when the Body of Christ started. (if that is your question) I see that God still had His hand out to Israel to repent till we see them as the rulers (leaders of the Jews) not repent. (Acts 28: 3 - 28) Then we read that...

I believe that it is the Head of the Body by His Holy Spirit that gave the apostle Paul the revelation of the Body of Christ. And it is what He has given Paul to write that we also learn of salvation through Christ.

I had a quick look and will go slowly when I have time. It seems everything that I believe. Thanks for the link. Oh, just a point I wouldn`t say that Paul founded Christianity, but rather Christ did.

I wrote just that. The Day of Christ started with Pentecost and will culminate when He comes to take the mature Body of Christ to His own throne. (Phil. 1: 6 - 10 1 Cor. 1: 7 & 8 Acts 3: 20 & 21 Rev. 3: 21

However, you have not given a specific place in the NHNE? Can you do that from scripture?

That is while the Body of Christ is being built and matured, however there is much time before and after that that God will fulfill His purposes for.

God has not done away with His covenant of PROMISE. And that is different from the Old Covenant which Israel disobeyed. The New Covenant is Jesus (Isa. 49: 8) and it is through Him that we, the believers in the Body of Christ are brought into fellowship with God AND also for Israel when they...

OK, good. 1. NO. The Body of Christ and Israel are grafted into the Lord. Rom. 11: 9 - 11. That says their eyes have been darkened. The grafting in is in Rom. 11: 16 & 18. There we read of root that is holy, nourishing and supporting. Only the Lord does that. `For if the first-fruit is holy...

You may think I`m avoiding whereas I think that of you and SI. It is that we see the topic differently and even scriptures differently. I`m not sure how long we can keep going without going over the same ground.

`In Isaac shall your seed be called.` Isaac was the promised child that God enabled Abraham and Sarah to conceive. It will be through that line that any in Israel will be turned to the Lord when He reveals Himself to them. It will not be through the flesh, Abraham and the bond woman, that...

`For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that hardening in part has happened to Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out...

Of course only believers are in the Body of Christ, and only those in Israel that turn to Him when He comes to deliver them and reveals Himself to them. (Zech. 12: 9 & 10)

But where are the scriptures to prove that? No good just sounding off.