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    What was the date of the Crucifixion?

    You seem to be in error again. The Hebrew day does not begin and end at twilight. The Passover lambs are killed at twilight. The Hebrew day begins and ends at nightfall. Additionally, the "morrow" means, the next day. That's a fact. The Word tells us on the fifteenth day of the first month; on...
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    What was the date of the Crucifixion?

    :) I don't suspect this date can be proven. In fact, I already know it can't. I believe what you are saying is in error. You say "adherents of AD 33 find themselves arguing that Passover always happened on the 14th Nisan. It didn’t." Well, I would say those that adhere to a Passover on the...
  3. The Light

    What was the date of the Crucifixion?

    What evidence do you have that supports that date?
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    What was the date of the Crucifixion?

    I agree it can only be 7th April AD 30 or 3rd April, AD 33.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Oh nice. I've awakened the blind. Maybe you could explain where the great multitude comes from if there is no rapture at the 6th seal.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The 144,000 are redeemed from the earth, which is land so it makes no matter. They are the first fruits of the coming harvest. We see this harvest in Revelation 7 as part of the great multitude. We get another view of this harvest in Revelation 15. So, the first fruits of the harvest are...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are welcome. Not many people understand how to read Revelation. Revelation reads just like Genesis 7. In Genesis 7 there is but one flood and yet we are given three different views of the same flood with different information in each view. And so it is with Revelation. We get one view of the...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    As to understanding Revelation, you must get a grasp on the order of Revelation. A short rundown.... 1. Revelation 4 and 5 are the rapture of the Church when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. 2. Revelation 6 lines up with Matthew 24. The 4 horsemen of the apocalypse (1st 4 seals) are false...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It seems you are ignoring facts. The 144,000 are redeemd FROM the earth. They are first fruits, which means that they are the wave offering before the throne. I'm always puzzled when obvious facts are denied. And that's a fact. I never can comprehend why obvious facts are denied.
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    Actually, there will be a resurrection before the 70th week of Daniel as the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. Then God will turn His attention toward His people. We see the Church in heaven in Revelation 5. Absolutely. Listen brother. I deal in facts. I don't dream up anything. If ever you...
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    The chances of you understanding this are remote, however, Babylon is destroyed before the 5th seal. AND THE SEALS AND THE TRUMPETS ARE NOT THE SAME EVENTS.
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    What was the date of the Crucifixion?

    Maybe you are busy, but I would like to see WHY you think that Jesus died in 30 AD. I don't think that you can scripturally support this date.
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    A. God's wrath is not on either tribulation Jews or tribulation saints. Most pretribulationist see the rapture of the Church before the 70th week of Daniel, which is correct. But they do not understand that the coming of Jesus in Matthew happens at the 6th seal and not at the end of the...
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    I want to clarify something, for you, so you won't be confused when dealing with others. Most people that understand God's timing for His people (dispensationalist) do not think that the coming of Jesus in 1 Thes 4 and the coming of Jesus in 1 Corinthians 15 are separate events. They think that...
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    It appears that you think that 1 Thes 4 and 1 Cor 15 are the same event. No so. 1 thes 4 and 1 Cor 15 are not the same event. I Cor 15 is Matthew 24"15, when Jesus sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. In 1 Thes 4, the Lord himself comes for His bride, the Church. There is...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    You are correct that most people that believe in the pre 70th week rapture think that the tribulation and the wrath of God happen in the same time frame. Of course this is incorrect. However, you believing that the wrath of God is on the upon the wicked now is total error. There is abslolutely...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The 144,000 are believers and are sealed. Revelation 7 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand...
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    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Mmmmm. I'll highlight for you.... Again. There. Now I'll explain it. "And they sang a new song before the throne." That is in heaven. "and no man could learn the song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth." That means it's the 144,000 singing the song in...
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    What and when is the rapture Part 2

    It's a good effort, I'll give you that, but the facts of Scripture tell the true story. 1 Thes 4 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and...