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keep my statements in context Randy and they wont be misunderstood. :) Was it the rituals or was there other factors they obeyed?....like kindness to the widows and orphans, like not exploiting your neighbour by not stealing, killing, lying, taking his wife .....you know the rest? Would you...

...and so God scrapped the Law?

hmmmm. I think if we are satisfied with that answer we are at an impasse in our understanding because 'perfection' whatever that is, also needs to be defined.

and what is it that constitutes 'his righteousness' at the core? do you think this answers the question?

and what is it that constitutes 'his righteousness' at the core?

You examine the words Arthur a bit like a surgeon examines the anatomy of a hand. However, considering its purpose can be used for kindness or hate, for tenderness or wrath does not enter his dissection. So I would ask, where is the disconnect?

Please tell us how you understand 'His righteousness'......and how the Law or laws pointed to it.

Good question Cassandra, good question!

I see the Jewish Temple as metaphors for our realities and God's reality ie, salvation from sin and death. The Jews missed the point and unfortunately it appears Christendom at large has done so as well. The sacrificed lamb was not the end of the show in the Temple. It was the start of a whole...

If we are talking about Matthew 5, Jesus' discourse are eternal principles of the Kingdom of God

understanding what my post is speaking to is a good place to start Wrangler

By opaque I mean, attributing to the spirit an ego out of control manifested in false humility....ultimately mundane utterances with vagaries of the imagination, as if born again is thereby validated.

Olivet Discourse present or future? Matthew 5? ....Present continuous

'the spirit' trip is problematic. The great emphasis on spirit and born again is for one, too opaque and and two, self focused. The Spirit never focuses on itself, it is a witness to Jesus whom he points to. The constant talk of 'the spirit, the spirit' is not the spirit of Jesus. No wonder...

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ahhhhhhh, such generosity!

Probably not. I'm thinking of the many who lived in far flung corners of the earth in bygone centuries. Those people are not abandoned. God's Spirit is active amongst all peoples through all time.

The gospel is to go to the whole world before Jesus returns. Jesus draws all mankind. Most of mankind are not interested.

1 Timothy 2:3-4 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. Why put the responsibility on God for men's faithlessness?

We are but dust Harold who have been around a relatively short time. Satan on the other hand is spirit, one whose existence has probably been eons. I find it hard to even measure that let alone the superior intelligence way beyond the human. It is the dust which Jesus identified with in his...