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    The Black Horse Is Coming Soon

    How can that be possible? Jesus comes at the 6th seal and the great multitude is in heaven before the 7th seal is opened. Also, we see this great multitude in heaven for the marriage supper. That means the Lord Himself has already returned for His bride and the bride is in heaven. This bride...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    I didn't stray anywhere. No. That's only you presuming that's what I presume. Complete error on your part. Yet you say destruction came on the same day Lot went out. True. But then you say Noah went in the ark 7 days BEFORE the destruction lol. Of course Noah is in the ark 7 days before the...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    You are quite a comedian. The only thing you have shown is that you know very little about God's word as it relates to end times. Well, one of us is a teacher. I've tried to teach, but I'm just no good at it. It became painfully obvious that I am no teacher as I cannot teach the blind to see...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    Simple as this. 1 Thes 4 is about the bridegroom coming for his bride. The Lord Himself comes. Matthew 24:29-31 is about the gathering from heaven and earth. He will send His angels. You miss so details how can you possibly understand. You need to do some research. Someone has fed you a load...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    Sure Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    Truth 7t7 was saying there is but one coming of Jesus. I was showing him a different coming, letting him know there is more than one coming. Jesus is coming for the 144,000, the first fruits of the second harvest. Yes, there are those without understanding that would think that. We are told...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    No. They do not need to contain all the same details to be talking about the same event. However, if there are conflicting details that's a different story. In one coming the Lord Himself is coming. In another coming He sends His angels. Two completely different events. One event will be like...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    Why would I need to assume it is a physical mountain on earth, when it names the mountain and tell us 144,000 are redeemed FROM THE EARTH. No assumption is necessary. I already know that he thinks there is only one coming of Jesus, at that will occur at the end of the trumpets so he would not...
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    The soon coming rapture?

    Rom 11 16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. 17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    Ok. I guess you can pretend that what is written in the word of God won't happen. Rev 14 Rev 14 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads. Pretend at your own leisure. Exactly...
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    The soon coming rapture?

    Yeah, I know. Lots of blindness and little understanding of the Word of God. Many think they have replaced Israel.
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    Well, He comes back to gather His saints immediately after the tribulation which occurs at the 6th seal. Then we know that He comes back with His armies at Armageddon. So that's two already. Then we know that He is coming in an hour that you think not, when the fulness of the Gentiles happens...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    Who said anything about a different Gospel? It's the same Gospel, just the timing is different for the Jews and the Gentiles. The fathers of the Jews were supposed to be the first fruits of the 1st harvest, but they served other Gods and would not be the 1st harvest. Hosea 9 10 I found Israel...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    Oh. You don't like the before the throne part? Have you found a translation that agrees with what you want the Word to say? Here we can see those people in heaven. You gotta different translation that agrees with your incorrect opinion? Rev 19 And after these things I heard a great voice of...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    The second coming takes place at the 6th seal as marked by the cosmic signs of the sun, moon and stars. Matt 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    You crack me up every time. I just start chuckling when I read your post. Everything goes right past you and you don't see. If Jesus is only coming once as you erroneously proclaim, why doesn't Paul simply say, but of the "time and season"? He says "times and seasons". Secondly, Paul tells us...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    Hi, thanks for your post. I cannot agree with your 1st sentence. The tribulation does not start at the 6th seal, it is over at the 6th seal. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    LOL. The blindness runs deep in one. Matthew 24:31 has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the Biblical Pre-Tribulation, pre 70th week rapture, pre opening of the 7 seals rapture of the Church. Yes, there is a rapture, the gathering from heaven and earth, that takes place with the coming of Jesus in...
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    I don't see any angels being sent in 1 Thes 4. I see the Lord Himself coming at the trump of God or voice of God. You are looking at the wrong harvest. You should be looking for angels being sent at the last trump. If you want to see the angels being sent for the gathering just prior to the...