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  1. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    It's a little hard for me to see how you don't think the day of the Lord is 1,000 years considering what Peter says.
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    Christ's Coming to Gather His Church is AFTER the Tribulation

    Matthew 24:31 is not 1 Thessalonians 4. In 1 Thes 4 the Lord Himself comes for the Church. In Matt 24:31 He sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. Completely different events. To put it nicely, you have no idea what you are talking about. You confuse the Lord Himself coming...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Brother, when Jesus comes as a thief He is coming at the 6th seal BEFORE wrath begins. When wrath is over there is yet 1000 years before the elements are burned and there is a new heaven and new earth. If you are going quote 2 Peter 3:10-12 you should have quoted verse 8 that shows that the day...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Please feel free to post ANY scriptures that refute multiple raptures. You won't find a single one. You best get to work. The agenda would be the truth, as the blind strike out against the truth, even as Paul persecuted those that had the knowledge of the truth. He was blind to the truth until...
  6. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Oh, it's clearly taught in scripture, but you need to know what you are reading to be able to understand it. Rev 14 4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being...
  7. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Thanks. That gave me quite a chuckle. Excellent humor and great way to start the day.
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    2 Thes 2 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. The point is 2 Thes 2...
  9. The Light

    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    You might try paying attention. I did not try to use 2 thes 2 to prove a pretribulation rapture....even Davy picked up on that....somehow. I was showing that Paul said the gathering to the Lord occurs BEFORE the day of the Lord, which of, proves Davy is wrong....again.
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    There is so much scriptural evidence that prove you don't have a clue, that I haven't had time to post it all. And you keep making clueless statements that only adds to the fray. EXACTLY. Paul was teaching Jesus comes after the man of sin, for the gathering from heaven and earth, WHICH I HAVE...
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    The Pre-Trib Rapture

    Mmmm. I could post dozens and dozens of scriptures that prove your beliefs are incorrect. But those without ears to hear and eyes to see, do not understand scripture. It's just that simple. The verses I'm posting will prove what you believe is incorrect, but you will not be able to understand...
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    The soon coming rapture?

    The Jews will miss the 1st harvest because they served other Gods. The Gentiles become the 1st harvest as the fig tree has two harvests. Hos 9 10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and...
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    The soon coming rapture?

    Really? What's it doing in Rev 14? You haven't a clue. Sorry, but we are not appointed to wrath. We can tell by these verses that the gathering is BEFORE the day of the Lord, the day of His wrath. 2 Thes 2 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our...
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    The soon coming rapture?

    Yeah, maybe. But if we just read what the coming of Jesus in Matthew 24 and the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal say, we can tell WITH A DOUBT that the last trump talked about in the scripture can't possibly be the 7th trumpet blown by an angel. But simple logic seems to be weak in many.
  15. The Light

    The soon coming rapture?

    The timeframe you post is for the Jews, not the Church. He should come for the Church in the early summer grain harvest. Summer is near.
  16. The Light

    The soon coming rapture?

    I would be more concerned about the those without oil in their lamps when He does come in an hour that you think not.
  17. The Light

    The soon coming rapture?

    No, No, No. Jesus never comes to the earth at the 6th seal. He remains in the clouds and sends His angels at the 6th seal. This is the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. If you were able to understand that the wrath of God is over at the 7th trumpet, you would understand that you are back in the...
  18. The Light

    The soon coming rapture?

    the last trump blown on a feast of God not the 7th trumpet blown by an angel
  19. The Light

    The soon coming rapture?

    EXACTLY, so we are on the same page. There is only one rapture at the second coming AT THE 6TH SEAL. Yeah. It's a shame isn't it? Some people think Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood. And some people think the very day Lot left Sodom destruction came. Some people think that the Lord...