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Again, your declaration does not make it so. It's different because you can't build a doctrine on one text.

Free will has to have been a calculated risk. God does not let one of His character traits overrule another.

How do you think sin was able to arise in a perfect universe? :)

Sour grapes. You're funny. Sure, I admit I could be wrong, but I've never even heard of those interpretations. It was dark outside when I was born, but it wasn't last night. Give me a break. "Another part of the land." There's certainly no more evidence of that eisegesis than that he was taken...

I'm not sure why you say remembering the brass serpent would help me. It was only a type/shadow of Christ, not Christ Himself, right? :)

Too bad for the rest of us. :rolleyes:

Spiritual things are spiritually discerned. And you are way too arrogant for that. I don't care how big your library is. :rolleyes:

Mose was privileged with a special resurrection (Jude 1:9 But even the archangel Michael, when he disputed with the devil over the body of Moses, did not presume to bring a slanderous charge against him, but said, "The Lord rebuke you!") and Elijah never tasted death--he was translated. Kind of...

I thought, perhaps, that this question was going deeper than the sin thing. :)

You're holding out on me, John. What presumptions? :D I'm not sure I believe in ATs the way I think you mean it. Except that Christ is Truth (and the Way, and the Life, of course). I've got a theory but it involves what folks call trinitarianism, I guess. The Father, Son, and Spirit were...

Unless they're not We are one? People don't say that in this context--they say "We're of one mind." Your declaration doesn't make it figurative. Scripture is to be taken literally unless other interpretations are indicated. I don't take any one text as explicit or conclusive as teaching that...

Yes, but sin began in Heaven. God fashioned His creatures with free will and a measure of creativity, which Lucifer used to craft pride. The origin of sin cannot truly be explained. To explain it would be to excuse it. Why? Because creatures who are programmed to love can't really love...

To whom do the ten commandments belong? :)

I thought sanctification was imparted righteousness. I hate to make the distinction too often because people tend to think you can have one without the other, which is not true. :)

Every particle of sin and suffering arises from the distortion of the character of God.

I'm not arguing or trying to prove anything. I'm just wondering aloud what purpose the statement serves. Can't you lighten up a little? :)

You didn't give me enough time. Don't trouble yourself. I believe you. What does it matter anyway? All who live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. I wouldn't consider that real persecution anyway, would you? :)

Interesting theory. Truly, every wind of doctrine is blowing. I'm just a seed-sower. :)

Aren't you clever? ;)

Maybe He subordinated Himself? Does it have to specify The Father? Because His Father is the only true God. All this seems counterproductive since I'm not inclined to defend the Trinity doctrine nearly as much as you are to debunk it. I'm not going to make an argument that you haven't heard...