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    The Resurrection = the Commencement of the millennium

    The only way that we can transition from death to life (both spiritually and physically) is by way of resurrection. There is no other way! This is demonstrated many times in Scripture in regard to both spiritual and physical resurrection. Two resurrections result for the believer from Christ’s...
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    The Resurrection = the Commencement of the millennium

    Romans 4:17 says, speaking of that great father of the faith Abraham, “(As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth [Gr. zōopoieō] the dead, and calleth those things which be not (unbelieving Gentiles) as though they were...
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    The Resurrection = the Commencement of the millennium

    You obviously haven't researched this very well. This statement is not true. It is wrong. There are various clear passages that refute this. You should study this more thorough before misleading people. Are we spiritually dead or alive before salvation? The answer of course is “dead.” We are...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No. They entered on the day of the flood came. Why do you avoid what Genesis and Jesus says? This is exactly what Pre-trib produces. It causes people to twist every passage in Scripture.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Are you never convicted when you tell lies? Address my post and stop continually avoiding. So far, you have admitted that you have no rapture passage in Ezekiel 39, Daniel 9 and Revelation. This shows that your whole doctrine is an elaborate fabrication.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You did not even address my argument. You just diverted into Pretrib talking points. The reality is: there are no grounds in this prophecy to split it up. It is a harmonious unitary prophecy.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where does it say "they were sealed in by God 6 days before the flood"? Once again you do not provide one single quote to support your claim. That is becoming a pattern with you, and one that is typical of engaging with Pretribbers. Again, where does it say "they were sealed in by God 6 days...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What supposed future anointed one will come to: (1) "finish the transgression"? (2) "make an end of sins"? (3) "make reconciliation for iniquity"? (4) "bring in everlasting righteousness"? (5) "seal up the vision and prophecy"? (6) "anoint the most Holy”? And exactly in what way will this be...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Not true! Daniel 9 is long-fulfilled. You cannot even grasp the timing or understand the detail of the prophecy. Daniel 9:24 predicts, “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to (1) finish the transgression, and to (2) make an end of sins, and to (3) make...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I did. LOL. All you have is your faulty dismissive opinion, which counts for nothing. Scripture overrides that! I see you avoided one of the cycles I presented.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    CYCLE 3 (received in heaven) Seven Trumpets (Ch 8:6-10:7) Previously in Scripture we have learnt that the coming of the Lord is ushered in by the sound of the trumpet. By clear implication, if the last trump relates to the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ there must be others that...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Pretribbers cannot show us a single rapture passage that shows a seven year tribulation (or any length of tribulation) following Christ’s return or a third coming following that. They rather resort to long-fulfilled ancient Old Testament non-rapture prophecies that do not even (1) mention the...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Did you hit those links I gave?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You have not given me a real literal rapture in Revelation. Revelation 4:1-2 is not the rapture/resurrection of the Church. It is a false invented type. That is because you do not have anything to support a Pretrib rapture. Revelation 4:1-2 is describing John being caught up in the Spirit 2000...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You are being very difficult. I give you the information. Check it out!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Are you color blind? Seriously! It is not difficult to follow the blue highlights that show the rapture/resurrection immediately followed by the judgment.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Read what I wrote. Have a look what is highlighted in blue.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    So, you have nothing in Ezekiel 39, Daniel 9 or Revelation that mentions a literal rapture of the Church, followed by a literal seven year tribulation period, followed by a literal third coming of Christ? Wow! Does this not concern you? After all, these are your main texts. Check these posts i...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I tried to get you away from your imaginary OT rapture passages, but you refused. I'm going to try again for the sake of the reader watching on. I will repeat my request: I will try and take one passage at a time so that you do not dart off on a bunny trail, as Pretribbers typically do when...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Wow! You are the one making outlandish claims. The burden of proof is in with you to prove what you claim. I understand why you are so uncomfortable, because you are clearly unable to substantiate your claims.