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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Not true. Post-wrath passages relate to the NHNE. I can quote these if need-be.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I agree that there is catching away or a rescue of the redeemed in Matt 24:38-42. We all agree with that. But where is a prolonged tribulation period followed by a third coming here? This is where we differ. It is simply not in this text or any other text In Scripture.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The catching away is before the pouring out of the wrath of God. But, the wrath of God is not the same as the tribulation executed by Satan upon the Church at the end. That is the wrath of Satan. The world is happy with the persecution, subjugation and silencing of the Church at the end. They...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Where does it say that Church is in heaven for the marriage supper? Please quote actual Scripture.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    How about showing us one single passage in the whole of Scripture that teaches a rapture of the Church, followed by tribulation period, followed by a third coming of Christ? Amils have presented numerous to prove their paradigm.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Not so! Quite the opposite. God's chosen people (His elect) are His redeemed children - those alone who have placed their faith and trust in Christ. This is basic 101 NT Christianity. Israel rejected and rejects Christ. Those who hate Christ are not the people of God. They are apostate and of...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Simply because it doesn't teach that. It is not in there. You have to force it into the sacred text. The whole passage (like elsewhere) is climactic. It is the end. No one survives. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-5:3 says: “we which are alive and remain unto the coming [Gr. parousia] of the Lord shall...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Take them away from what they have been taught and they get lost. That is why they cannot address any other arguments.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    We will see who has the truth and who his butchering it. We will see who the real literalists are and those who must spiritualize Scripture, twist it and explain it away, in order two letter doctrine fit. My thesis: when Jesus comes He regenerates this earth, removes all corruption from...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Premils go here because they have nothing to corroborate their views. Frustration leads to their ad hominem.
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    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Grow up. I am done with your childish antics. I am going to call your mum.
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    But shun profane and vain babblings

    Look in the mirror and desist from false accusations. Lies are what Satan throws, not Jesus.
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    But shun profane and vain babblings

    It doesn't say 1 day = 1,000 years. It says one day is "like" (this is just contextually refuting the folly of the mockers scoffing re the apparent delay in Christ’s coming). We are looking at a simile. It is a generality. It is just saying time is nothing with God. That is it! It is very...
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    But shun profane and vain babblings

    More lies. More false accusation. More insults. More ad hominem. Avoidance and name-calling is all Pretrib and Premill has.
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    But shun profane and vain babblings

    The Book is the enemy of your doctrine.
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    But shun profane and vain babblings

    More avoidance! You have to! To embrace the truth of Scripture would demolish Premil.
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    But shun profane and vain babblings

    No you do not. You twist his words. You cannot even answer simple questions. That is because it exposes your error. 2 Peter 3:3-13 couldn't be clearer: “Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Learn to let the Bible speak for itself.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    They do not know what that is or how to do that. To do so would force them to renounce their beliefs, which they do not want to do.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Avoidance is all you have. If you were to actually address the scriptural text you would have to admit that you have been deceived by your teachers. Avoidance simply points people to Amil truth. Your doctrine is in pieces on this thread.