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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    That is absolutely false. For one thing, any Greek word can potentially be used figuratively. There is no rule that says only certain words can be used to symbolize something. Also, the Hebrew word "eleph" means one thousand. Yet, it is used figuratively to refer to a large, unknown number in...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    Please explain what you mean when you say verses 16-19 involve "ruling with a rod of iron". Explain how you think that will work exactly. Keeping in mind that ruling with a rod of iron relates to this... Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces like a...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Goodness sakes. You are terribly mistaken. You apparently don't even know what faith is. For one thing, repentance and faith go hand in hand and that has always been the case. You can't put your faith and trust in Jesus Christ without repenting of your sins and acknowledging Him as Lord and as...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    I don't see where you said that anywhere in your post. But, I'm not going to argue about this point here since that's not what this thread is about.
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Okay, but that doesn't really address my point at all. Why would you think that the coming of the Son of Man Jesus mentioned after that is not the same coming of the Son of man He mentioned in Matthew 24:30? They are relevant to the point I'm making about the day of the Lord being a global...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Did you somehow miss that the post of mine you replied to here was not directed to you? I was talking to rwb. I actually agree with all of that, so I truly have no idea what I said that prompted this.
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Of course not, but I find it very strange for any amillennialist to agree with a pre-trib dispensationalist on this particular topic. Most amillennialists agree that there is one future day of judgment (one judgment event) when all people will be rewarded or punished and that's what we see...
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    First, you ask me a question and then, before giving me a chance to answer, you answer your own question. How about just letting me answer the question first before you answer it, eh? Every believer will receive the reward of eternal life in the kingdom of God prepared from the foundation of the...
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    I agree, but what I'm asking is how does this fit with your understanding of the judgment seat of Christ and the great white throne judgment? I see them as all referring to the same day of judgment. Do you see Matthew 25:31-46 as being a separate judgment from the judgment seat of Christ and...
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    As I've said, there could have been more falsehood contained in the report than just the lie that the day of the Lord had already come. Why you won't allow for that possibility is beyond me. But, since you don't accept 2 Peter 3:10-12 as legitimate scripture that can help us understand what...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    We're talking about the most highly symbolic book in the Bible here. There's a lot of symbolism in the book, but somehow numbers can't be symbolic? The word "thousand" is used figuratively elsewhere in the Bible, so why not in Revelation 20?
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Nonsense. It's because that is what is taught in scripture! It's what is portrayed in Matthew 25:31-46. And I have made it clear that I don't see the judgment as being a time when Jesus deliberates over the destinies of all people. That is already determined ahead of time. The day of judgment is...
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    So, how does Matthew 25:31-46 fit into your view then?
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Conundrum of Zechariah Ch. 14

    He's very inconsistent in his approach to interpreting scripture, as all people are who try to make scripture say what they want it to say. I have called him out on that several times in the past and he won't acknowledge it. But, it's obvious.
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    Look in the mirror and read those scriptures to yourself. I have shown you the truth clearly from scripture, but your pride prevents you from accepting it. You can't understand that there is just one judgment day of all people, which will occur when Jesus returns, because you stubbornly stick to...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Who is Paul discussing in 2 Thessalonians 2?

    Why do you stop at Matthew 24 verse 34 there? It's not reasonable to think that the coming of the Son of Man that is referenced several times after verse 34 is speaking of some other coming of the Son of Man than is referenced in Matthew 24:30. Can you explain to me why you didn't address what...
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    I'm sure he, an amillennialist, will be thrilled to see that a pre-trib dispensationalist agrees with his post.
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Judgement Seat of Christ for who ?

    I'm not convinced at all by your arguments. I see no indication anywhere in 2 Corinthians 5:10 or Romans 14:10-12 that it's talking about an ongoing judgment only of believers rather than referring to the same judgment portrayed in Matthew 25:31-46 and Revelation 20:11-15. For whatever reason...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    The Date of the Lord delivering Israel.

    I feel like Paul gets no respect from dispensationalists. They just don't accept what he taught. I'm not sure how much more clear he could have been in passages like Romans 2:28-29, Romans 9:6-8, Ephesians 2:11-22 and Galatians 3:26-29 about there being one, and only one, people of God (those...
  20. Spiritual Israelite

    The Date of the Lord delivering Israel.

    It refers to those who would have the Holy Spirit poured out on them and that started happening on the day of Pentecost long ago. But, just believe what you want. I have nothing to add to what I've already said.