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Where do you get that translation? §So if there was GOD and there was the Word that was also a god.... Then we now have 2 Gods..... This doesn't sound good locust. But please give your source for John 1:1 and the Word was a God. I find that in the New World Translation. Are you a JW?

Great point JLB ! I just go back and forth on this. I pondered that maybe water means baptism.... and the spirit means that Jesus will baptize with fire and the Holy Spirit. Matthew 3:11 I have always believed it was physical birth as you've stated... Actually it still makes the most sense to me...

Agreed. But some don't read a lot of threads....I'd be one of these. And some don't read each and every post...I'd be one of these too. So we have to give the benefit of the doubt. If someone doesn't know about calvinism...they will never understand some of what you state.

So if God is merciful to some,,,, He does this at the cost of not being just. God is either just or He is not. If HE chooses some for heaven and we ALL deserve hell... then He ceases to be just. God must be both just AND merciful. There's only one way He could accomplish this. He MUST be...

How is that? I'd say that there is one logos... one mind, reason, thought, word of God. And that ONE logos of God became flesh.

I stated that Jesus is in the OT. Exodus 3:1-6 1 Now Moses was pasturing the flock of Jethro his father-in-law, the priest of Midian; and he led the flock to the west side of the wilderness and came to Horeb, the mountain of God. 2 The angel of the LORD appeared to him in a blazing fire from...

Agreed. Logos means more that the Word of God. And the NT teaches that Jesus created everything, I believe this is what you're referring to. John 1:3 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing * came into being that has come into being. Colossians 1:16 16 For by Him...

Wow Taken! What's going on with you bro? How about calming down and treating everyone nicely,,, just like a good Christian should do? That would be nice.

Good for you Sabe' ! Some on these Forums have odd ideas. Some think we cannot forfeit our salvation no matter how much we sin. Some think it is not necessary to obey God.

1 John 1:5 5 This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. 1 John 4.8 8 The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love. Do YOU even read scripture? We are getting nasty in our old age Taken. And IF...

Language is not easy. The JWs also state, now, that Jesus is the Son of God. What's important here is the belief that Jesus always existed.. NOT that He was created at some point. Jesus and the Father are ONE BEING: We will have the Holy Spirit dwelling within us, but we are NOT one with God...

Yes. Also, by Jesus saying He is the Son of Man referring to Daniel 7. Also, He stated BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, I AM. The exact wording could be debated, but that Jesus meant He was before Abraham cannot be denied. AND,,,that it was HE in the burning bush.

Why would YOU HAVE THE WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE cancel out YOU MUST EAT MY FLESH? Jesus did not call back the disciples that were deserting Him due to this difficult teaching... Jesus let them go. I think, as I seem to remember, that this was important in my coming to understand that Communion...

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Well jaybird...I knew we'd agree on something eventually. I really wish we could agree on everything.

Do you find a big difference between logos and word? Both are WITHIN God... Both are part of God.... it becomes flesh. In your last sentence, you're saying that Jesus was created first and then HE created everything? Please post the scripture... but tomorrow.

LOL I posted a whole page's worth. And I don't know what an Arminian is. Is it someone from Armenia? What could be more demonic than teaching that God created evil and predestinates sin? You might want to reread my post to you number 278 and 282. And...you should study up on the Book of...

It's 1:20AM here and am closing down. So I'll get to your post in the morning. Let me ask you this: WHY are personal attacks necessary? Do I attack you? Or do I just post scripture to refute your incorrect theology? How about cutting out the insults? §That would be nice. Maybe it's...

Happy to know there's another SHE on these boards... not too many of us! :gd

It's a HE... and yes sir...it will cause confusion.