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  1. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Ok, here is where you need your big boy logic pants on. When you see the 144,000 that are sealed in Rev 7, that means they are sealed with the spirit of God and are Christians. That sealing of the 144,000 has to occur earlier in the seals, before Christ returns at the 6th seal. How do we know...
  2. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The tribulation is OVER at the 6th seal. Then the wrath of God begins. I understand the answer to your question, and I will attempt to explain it, but you'll need your big boy logic pants to understand it. It certainly appears that the 144,000 are sealed after the coming of Jesus, after the...
  3. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Davy, the verses you are posting occur at the end of Gods wrath at the 7th trumpet or the 7th vial which are the same timeframe. They have absolutely NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal, after the tribulation when He remains in the clouds. From the clouds to heaven...
  4. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    It's seems that you are in the business of solving the problems that the scripture seems to present by making things up. Instead of that, why don't you just accept what is written. It's that simple.
  5. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    I don't believe this would apply as I know that the fig tree has two harvests. It will be the Antichrists that will be pretending to be Christ and the Church will not be here when that occurs. They do not need to be sealed because they are not going to be here. They are sealed because they...
  6. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Jesus obviously leaves heaven and comes to the clouds at the 6th seal. It is the gathering BEFORE the wrath of God. In 2 Thes 2 we see that Jesus comes for the gathering just before the wrath of God 2 Thes 2 1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our...
  7. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Oh no. I have added nothing. It's all there to see. Here is the coming of Jesus in Matt 24 It shows he remains in the clouds and sends angels to gather elect BEFORE THE WRATH OF GOD. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her...
  8. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The tribulation is OVER at the 6th seal. Then the wrath of God begins. Here is the coming of Jesus at the sixth seal, when He sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. Rev 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having...
  9. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    No, you are ignoring what the scripture says. At the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal, He sends His angels. Jesus remains in the clouds. Mark 13 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather...
  10. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    What's really sad is watching so many of you go back and forth about what the Church is doing during the 70th week of Daniel, not understanding that the 70th week of Daniel is about the people of Daniel and it is the time when God regrafts the 12 tribes across the earth. Then comes the...
  11. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    If you check the facts there are three comings. One when the Lord Himself comes for His Church before the 70th week of Daniel as Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood. Then God will turn His attention to His chosen. The seed of the woman will be raptured from the earth at the coming of...
  12. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    If you check the facts there are three comings. One when the Lord Himself comes for His Church before the 70th week of Daniel as Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood. Then God will turn His attention to His chosen. The seed of the woman will be raptured from the earth at the coming of...
  13. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    At the 7th trumpet Jesus returns to the earth. When Jesus comes at the 6th seal, he will remain in the clouds. rev 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. 15 And...
  14. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    There are two comings. When Jesus comes at the 7th trumpet He will return to the earth. When Jesus comes at the 6th seal he remains in the clouds and all eyes will see Him. He will send his angels to gather the elect. Rev 14 14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat...
  15. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Why is the Euphrates dried up to prepare the way of the kings of the east in Rev16 at the sixth vial, but the event has already happened at the 6 trumpet in Rev 9 Rev 16 12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way...
  16. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The trumpets and vials do occur in the same timeframe. They occur in the wrath of God. Whereas the seals happen in the tribulation. The trumpets CANNOT BEGIN until the 7th seal is opened. Therefore the trumpets and seals are not the same timing.
  17. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    That's impossible because the trumps cannot begin until the 7th seal is opened. Completely bad logic. That's like saying that a car drives off a cliff at the 7th trump and its the same event at the sixth seal, and yet the engine is not started until the 7th seal. Logic is not correct.
  18. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The wrath of God begins at the opening of the 7th seal when the 1st trumpet is blown. When Jesus returns at the 6th seal we can see that the wrath of God is come. Rev 6 12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as...
  19. The Light

    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    He does come to end the trouble of Jacob. When He comes at the 6th seal He raptures the 12 tribes across the earth from the earth. Jacobs troubles are over. Those that fled in the nation of Israel and are still on earth are in a supernatural place of protection. I have never said that the wrath...