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I guess you could arrive at that conclusion if you didn't understand that the coming Jesus in Matthew 24 is the coming of Jesus in Rev 6. Matthew 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from...

No. The seals are the time of Jacobs trouble. The trumpets and vials are the wrath of God. No. It's all prophecy but it all happens. I think the rapture of the Church happens before the seals are opened. The seals are the 70th week of Daniel. The gathering from heaven and earth happens with...

No, this is not correct. The seals have nothing to do with the trumpets and vials, other than the seventh seal must be opened before the wrath of God can begin. The seals are the 70th week of Daniel, when God has turned His attention to regrafting the Jews onto the olive tree. The 70th week of...

Yeah, many people can pinpoint the coming of Jesus to AFTER THE TRIBULATION. And yet, He is coming in an hour that you think not. I'd say both are correct. Learn the parable of the fig tree.

No, the word says in Matt 24, Immediately after the tribulation of those days.....Jesus comes. When we match that coming up with the cosmic signs of the sun, moon and stars in Rev 6, we can see that the wrath of God has not begun. So the tribulation is over before the wrath of God begins. When...

Actually, I believe that the rapture of the Church likely happens at Rev 4. It will be pretrib as we can escape ALL THESE THINGS that will come to pass. I believe that Noah was in the ark 7 days before the flood for a reason. When the Church is raptured, the Lord Himself will come at the trump...

When I read the earlier part of your answers I knew that you had to think that the 7 years is the wrath of God. Yes, most pretrib preachers think that the tribulation is the wrath of God. They think that these verses in Matthew 24 occur at the 7th vial when Jesus returns with His armies...

I think that is likely to be it as we see the 24 elders in heaven with crowns in Rev 4 and it appears that there are kings and priests in heaven in Rev 5 which is likely the Church. Jesus comes at the 6th seal, as we see what proceeds the sign of His coming and men are trying to hide. Matthew...

Interesting comment Dad. Just wondering what chapter, you see the rapture happening in Revelation? Do you see the return of Jesus at the 6th seal?

Sorry brother. I base what I believe on the Word of God. Simply read what it says. Luke 21 6 As for these things which ye behold, the days will come, in the which there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down. 7 And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall...

The end of the world is really the end of the age, but Jesus answers this in Matthew 24 Matt 24 3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world...

Jesus opens the 6th seal and gathers the elect from heaven and earth. He remains in the clouds and sends His angels. See the coming of Jesus in Matt 24. See the coming of Jesus for the harvest in Rev 14. They are the same event and they occur at the 6th seal. Then Jesus and those gathered from...

Matthew 24:4-6 is NOT about the destruction of the Temple in 70AD as most men teach. All you have to do is read Luke 21 and it easily proves that it has nothing to do with 70AD. We are told that there will not be one stone upon another. NOT ONE. And yet there are plenty of stones upon another...

I just showed you that the events of the seal that John talked about are the very same events that Jesus talked about in Matt 24. And this includes the great tribulation and the coming of Jesus. For you to say that the events of Rev 6 are prophecy and not real world action is nonsense. Prophecy...

Right. Exactly. Wrath has come after the 7 trumpets sounds. It is over. It is finished. Wrath starts with the 1st trumpet and is over at the 7th trumpet. It has come. We can prove that by Rev 6 Rev 6 16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that...

It seems you don't that what Jesus tells us about the end times in Matthew 24 lines up perfectly with the 1st 6 seals. Here are the 1st 4 seals. Matthew 24 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that...

Incorrect sir. Jesus shows up at the 6th seal for the gathering from heaven and earth which happens just before wrath. He also shows up at the 7th trumpet which is the same coming as the 7th Vial. No sir. Jesus never comes to the earth in Rev 14. He remains in the clouds. Rev 14 14 And I...

I already showed where the cosmic signs of Matthew 24 mark the coming of Jesus at the 6th seal. The tribulation is over. Are you not understanding "Immediately after the tribulation of those days? That means the tribulation is over at the 6th. Look at the 5th seal. It is the great tribulation...

Only His sheep will hear His voice when He comes. Song of Solomon 2 8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills. What voice is for others to hear? Song of Solomon 2 12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is...

What's very obvious is that the Lord himself comes for His Church just as 1 THES 4 says. What's obvious is the that Noah is in the ark 7 days before the flood even as the Church will be in heaven 7 years before wrath. Likewise also, what's obvious is the He will send His angels to gather the...