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If you want to somehow connect a verse to another. That's fine but again. John 8 is not consistent with what you are trying to convey. The idea that you are now asking the above question is a strawmans argument.

Although they followed the law of Moses, they did not abide by it. They were hypocrites. They knew that the Messiah was coming but did not recognise him because they were viewing him in the flesh. They had knowledge and understanding from the scrolls handed down from generation to generation but...

Yes. This verse is not consistent to what he is trying to convey.

I'm gonna be here all day! next.....:):p:D;)

Ohh brother. Please go back to the original conversation where I first entered. #post 52.

no brother marks. In post#2. brother JBF made a statement that said: It teaches that Jesus is God, to put it simply. And this is also an essential for salvation, John 8:24. I am making the point that Jesus was talking to the Pharisees and non believing Jews in this chapter. He was not talking to...

So now you are going to use the reverse psychology. Ummm okay.:) No I believe that Jesus died for the lost sheep of Israel that is why I am a believer in Jesus Christ who is my Lord and Savior even though I am from pagan ancestry, a gentile Christian and even though I not an Israelite, nor am I...

A strawmans argument. What has straw got to do with grain. In the case of John 8. Jesus was not talking to the Gentiles....to take something Jesus said to the house of Israel and make it a gentile issue is biblically incorrect and clearly shows immaturity of the word.

Again, you are referring to John 8 but your point is not consistent with this verse. Jesus, who came to the lost sheep of Israel, had a crowd of gatherers with him who were Jewish. Some of them were believing Jews, others not. Amongst them were the Scribes and the Pharisees. From verse 13-30...

I love this verse and agree with the Original poster. Post #2 I don't agree with.

My issue brother is salvation. Here is the original conversation. ↑Justbyfaith said: my reply was ~ 10:13.

Yes brother farouk, I do but you have to be careful in certain circumstances, not to take on something that belonged specifically to another group of people. In this case John 8. Jesus was talking to the Pharisees. The issue I have here is that the brother said back yonder, that you are not...

Well you are saying that Jesus words relate to the gentiles even though he was speaking to the Pharisees....the ministry to the gentiles was given by Jesus to Paul....

Missed my point again. It is you who are stating that what ever Jesus said to the Pharisees were for all people, yet Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel, not for all people. Kapeesh!!

Brother... this is the original bone of contention, right here. We are not Pharisees

Right here ~ .Matthew 15 tells us that Jesus came for the lost sheep of Israel, not for Gentile believers, however he did help this one due to her faith in him.. 24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” 25 But she came and knelt before him, saying, “Lord, help...

You really believe then, that when Jesus is talking to the Pharisees, he's not actually targeting them but rather all people? *Pharisee: members of a party that believed in resurrection and in following legal traditions that were ascribed not to the Bible but to “the traditions of the fathers...

I'm referring to the verses he has quoted. Not other verses. John 8

Really? ~ does this sound like something a gentile believer would relate to who has come from out of the world into Christ? 13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you shut the kingdom of heaven in people's faces. For you neither enter yourselves nor allow those who would...

Amen brother, totally. When I sent you that comment, It was kind of rhetorical and agreeing with your last post. I was thinking in terms of being someone who has led a lot of people to Christ through the salvation message. Coming from a paganistic background myself, I know personally that the...