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Agreed. Question is: WHO are His people??

Find out what it means when Paul teaches that God does not deny HIMSELF. It has nothing to do with our discussion here. IF it did, there would be a glaring conflict in 2 Timothy 2:11-13 Let's check out why: 11 It is a trustworthy statement: For if we died with Him, we will also live with...

We're discussing believers here Taken. We're discussing born again persons that are IN CHRIST. Those IN CHRIST that do NOT produce fruit/good works.... will be thrown away, like a branch not producing fruit, dried up, and burned. JESUS is saying this...not me. John 15:2 2 "Every branch in Me...

@Taken You said this in post no. 73 (it was messed up for some reason) "WITH does not mean IN. Human persons Can be WITH God and FALL AWAY. Human persons IN Christ can NEVER Fall Away.." So WITH God is not good enough for you? You like IN CHRIST better? I stated that a person must ABIDE...

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No. There's a method for posting scritpure. I was well-trained. YOU apparently can only spew out verses WITHOUT POSTING THEM. It's up to YOU to post supporting scripture... it's not up to ME to do your work for you. Jesus saves us. IF we want to be. HE is NOT doing all the work. He did...

I love to bring attention to some religion that some on these Forums teach. It's NOT Christianity, Don't know what they want to call it... but it's NOT what Jesus taught. Here is the latest statement made by one of those "christians"....: And Salvation is a "GIFT".. the GIFT of...

Shocking, isn't it?

Muslims have moved into Italy too. A young guy I know, about 17, told me that some of the girls like the muslim guys. He's smart though,,,, He said: They like them now, but they won't be liking them too much when their 25 (the girls). Will try to go through the thread tomorrow morning.

You're speaking to @ProDeo ..... But I think you forgot to read Matthew 25 and just stopped at the desolation part. Here is Matthew 25 where Jesus says: Depart from Me accursed ones..... Matthew 25:35-43 35 'For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me...

I disagree and was correct in how you post. OF COURSE works show that we are obedient to God. This is not my point and I'd like to clarify my point, which some Christians do not agree with even though it's what the NT teaches. God knows whether or not our faith is genuine. Our works don't help...

Don't know. What do YOU believe it is??

@Fred J Actually the term BORN AGAIN is what is making it difficult for me to understand John 3.5 Born from above SPECIFICALLY states that one must be born of the spirit...of God. This would reject the meaning of physical birth. BORN AGAIN makes is sound like we must be born FIRST and then...

I agree with you that sometimes we spend too much time on a word, on these Forums. I tend to keep away from this. There is one word, however, that is worth discussing, but it is not the subject of this thread... that word is BELIEVE. Some just don't seem to understand it and it's pivotal to...

No Behold. James said that FAITH without works is DEAD. Very simple but not very comfortable.

Taken, Jesus doesn't agree with you. As far as Jesus is concerned, one can abide IN HIM,,, and then NOT abide IN HIM. He teaches that we must continue to abide in Him. He teaches that we are IN HIM IF we abide in Him. The word IF is conditional. Conditional on whether or not we are abiding IN...

Posting scripture means giving book, chapter and verse. I thought everyone knew this. But OK except it has to wait till later now so I could post it for you.

Most will not study church history. It's dangerous to one's doctrinal beliefs. Better to believe the odd ideas that have recently come about. Why believe what the Apostles taught? It's not like they spent years with Jesus and learned from Him ! Sad stuff.

Not here to waste my time BF. If you would study the NT instead of listening to heretical teachers.... you'd understand the word of God. You most assuredly do NOT understand Matthew 1:21 or any other biblical verse for that matter.

@Behold The following is in post 1349. Please respond to it instead of playing verse ping pong. Thanks. James 2:14-17 14 What use is it, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily...