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  1. GodsGrace

    The Way to Salvation

    I think some may be confused between Justification and Sanctification. Maybe. Not sure. They claim to know scripture and theology. Justification is immediate. A person decides to worship God. He has turned from walking toward satan and the state of being lost... to walking toward God and...
  2. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Great article LoveYeshua! I never would have believed that I'd get push-back by stating that God must be obeyed ! And yet, here we are.....having to post scripture in support of statements that God must be obeyed. unbelievable. And, to be told by some that good works are a sin because they add...
  3. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    This is pretty funny Behold. Actually, very sad. You don't teach Pauline Theology because you can't post one verse that states we could sin and still go to heaven. AND What about Pauline theology? Do you like HIS theology better than the theology of Jesus? Are you saying there's a difference...
  4. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Right. And I'd like @Behold to reply to you with scripture and not his own opinion.
  5. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    God made it very clear nedsk. It's just that some prefer their own private teachings to those that are found in the NT. All Jesus did for over 3 years was to teach to do good works and good behavior. Jesus, Paul, Peter, James --- they all taught the same. To some, these teachings are...
  6. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    The other member cut and pasted his previous post because YOU never replied to it. You NEVER reply with scripture but with your own personal opinions about what the NT teaches. There are NO verses anywhere in the entire bible, OT or NT, that teach that a person could behave as he wants and...
  7. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    You're teaching a different gospel Behold. You're truly in trouble -- theology-wise.
  8. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    @Behold Study up on the atonement theories. Seems like you may not know any.
  9. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Here's what I mean Behold: WE ARE SAVED BY OUR BEHAVIOR. Paul taugth we are saved by our behavior...you might have missed it. Romans 2: 5But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of...
  10. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Right. BELIEVE is also present active indicative. Whatever that means... is this a grammar lesson? Please explain how ETERNAL LIFE is present active indicative and BELIEVE somehow took place, one time, in the past and is NOT present active indicative. Jesus said He will give life to the one...
  11. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Where's @Eternally Grateful when you need him?? See EG,,,this is what I'm talking about. A Christian person is proclaiming that we are NOT saved based on our behavior. Case closed.
  12. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Sure. Many unsaved persons do more good works than many saved persons. No. Have you read Hebrews? Oh. You have. Nice. I agree 100%. I NEVER said that nor do I judge anyone's soul. I was speaking to a different member so I'm not understanding what you're asking or saying. If a person lives...
  13. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    I NEVER set out to convince you that works save us because they don't. You get justification mixed up with sanctification. I've been trying to define BELIEVE for you.... you DO state the definition... but then you don't APPLY it to Christian theology. Actually, it IS a start. Those who are...
  14. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Could you expound a little... As I understand it: We do not lose free will at salvation. We can still decide to do good or to do evil... we still decide how to behave. ( we all will sin - no one is perfect ) Faith does not CAUSE good works... it's a choice we make. This would go to the flesh...
  15. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    You've correctly stated your position ! Which is why you've told me, more than once, that I must not be saved. WE don't have FAITH IN SELF EG. No Christian does. We have faith in what Jesus taught...and Paul and all the writers. They taught that we are to obey God.... obeying God means doing...
  16. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    You've provided verses that we are to BELIEVE. Not getting into the definition of BELIEVE again. Been trying for 10 years with you --- I give up. But those reading along should either know what BELIEVE means, or they should find out if in any doubt. And as to works having something to do...
  17. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    §The sin, Behold, is to teach that we are not required to do good works AFTER salvation, as Jesus taught: Matthew 5:16 16“Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven. Matthew 5:20 20“For I say to you that unless...
  18. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Great post ProDeo. Yes, some will tell me I'm not saved due to incorrect doctrine..... that because I do not believe in OSAS,,,,I must not be saved. Could you imagine if it was our DOCTRINE that saves us? Most of humanity would be going to that other place. Happily for us it's our BELIEF in...
  19. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    EG Persons that believe that we must obey God do NOT want to pump their chest, as you said. They want to obey the very God that saved them. We are told to obey God throughout the entire bible. That any amount of verses are necessary is rather disconcerting to be honest.
  20. GodsGrace

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Jesus stated that we possibly will NOT abide IN HIM forever. Jesus stated that those IN HIM could be cast out, taken away, severed.... set aside, dried and put to burn. John 15:2 2“Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; Please note: Branches IN JESUS (believers are IN...