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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    I'm not claiming anything. I'm simply repeating how Paul proves the life we receive when we die in Christ NEVER ends. We will not leave our body in death and go as spiritual body to heaven unless we have part in the first resurrection in life, which is spiritual. We must be indwelt with the...
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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    I broke the passage down in a way that would be difficult for you to miss. But alas, as a postrib, premillennialists, you deny what is plain. So you can continue to deny a spiritual resurrection when our body dies, because to admit it is true, would mean a thousand years equate to TIME on the...
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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    Exactly! The spirit within man's body is defined - a current of air, i.e. breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively, a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman) an angel, demon, or (divine) God, Christ's...
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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    You're only focusing on Paul's words that speak of our bodily resurrection when the last trump sounds. But that isn't the only resurrection Paul is speaking of in this passage. He goes into great detail to prove death of our body is not the end for those who die in faith. Paul shows us that...
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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    I'm simply going to quote this verse from other translations, hoping it will help you more than if I tried to explain the function of a spirit in mankind. 2 Kings 5:26 (KJV) And he said unto him, Went not mine heart with thee, when the man turned again from his chariot to meet thee? Is it a...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    Who has said that Christ did not rise physically, or that He was not seen in physical form ascending to heaven? Christ was not forbidding Mary not to touch Him ever! Like Thomas did, Mary could have touched Him later, but at that moment when Christ had just been resurrected from the dead...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    AMEN! It is the spirit in man that gives life to our body. As I've already shown you the spirit in man returns to the Father in heaven after the body dies. The spirit will only return to the Father with life if it is indwelt with the Holy Spirit of God. Yes, every living creature upon the...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    Whenever any human dies, the spirit returns to God who gave it, while our body returns to the dust of the earth from which it came. The spirit of Christ is no different. When He died His spirit ascended to the Father in heaven, and His body went into the tomb. Ecclesiastes 12:7 (KJV) Then...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    Christ had not yet ascended physically, as His disciples would see Him go. But His spirit ascended to the Father in heaven the moment He died. Christ spoke these words to Mary because she was so excited to see her Lord ALIVE that she was clinging to Him. He wanted her to stop, because He...
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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    For the one who dies in unbelief, darkness and death. For the one who dies in faith eternal light and life with the Lord forever.
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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    Randy, you don't seem to be listening! Man is NOT a spirit! He is a mortal human being with a spirit. To know and enter the Kingdom of God on the new earth, man must have part in the first resurrection in TIME, and the bodily resurrection when the last trumpet begins to sound that TIME on...
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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    Only for he who remains in darkness and unbelief! The future is bright for the children of God! Because even though our body dies, we shall be with the Lord in heaven.
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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    Man is born natural (of the earth) physical body, with a natural (worldly, dead in trespasses and sins) sprit, and the two together are called a living soul. This is why man must be born again to know and enter the Kingdom of God. Yes, the body must have a spirit to be a complete living soul...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    Yes Bob, Christ is telling the Father that His life (spirit) was being given into the Father's hand. Because the spirit returns to the Father when our body dies. Not only would His body not decay while lying dead in the sepulcher to be raised to life again, but His spirit too would also ascend...
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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    Christ is not saying our resurrected body will be a spiritual body. If that were true, we would not be physical, because that which is spirit is not physical. When John writes "we shall be like Him" he does not mean we will be spiritual body. If we read the verse in context, we find that John...
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    What JESUS Taught Us At The Last Supper = John 13;3-5

    Matthew 11:11 (KJV) Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. Not sure what you mean? I'm not sure you're rightly understanding the verse because...
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    Last day prophecies fulfilled

    Adam was created in the likeness and image of God, but that which is created by God can never become the Creator Bob. The difference between being created human, and He who is the only begotten of God, is that the Son, like His Father has always existed. That's why John calls Christ the Word...
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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    Sorry Randy, you say this is your position and it should make sense to me, but it doesn't. You do realize that which gives life to the body is the spirit in man, but it is not the body of man? It is the spirit, or the essence of life the human spirit is that has a spiritual association with...
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    Understanding "THE MAN OF SIN IS REVEALED" passage.

    Yes, eternal existence is one thing, but eternal life is only for believers, because I don't view being in a state of eternal dying as life. Randy, my reply was to what you said in the third paragraph of reply #50 - "Eternal Life, for me, is the gift of eternal fellowship with God, an eternal...
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    Another Premillennial absurdity

    A, An - the indefinite article. "A" and "an" are called the indefinite articles. They define their noun as something unspecific (e.g., something generic, something mentioned for the first time). The - would be the definite article. "The" is called the definite article. It defines its noun as...