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  1. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    What made it the worst to the Jews was two things first is that they would of realized that their God had abandoned and allowed their temple and sacrifice to be ended and destroyed. To them they couldn't worship and offer sin sacrifice anymore. But the very worse part was that they realized...
  2. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Well I do believe that it’s mentioned in the bible but yes and he was a recognized historian who along with Tacitus is one of the very few non Christian historians to actually record that Jesus really existed
  3. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes and the gospel reveals the truth which stop’s people from being deceived can’t you see that? Did the revelation from God show you that Jesus declared you redeemed and now you don’t believe in satans deceiving lies?
  4. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Many you don’t actually realize what you said but God wouldn’t think that the events of 70 were an LOL or not a great tribulation. 1.2 million people were killed and only 97000 survived to be taken away as slaves. One mother actually ate her baby and the city and temple were completely. There...
  5. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Yes that’s me but it is about 8 years ago lol I guess that other site just disappeared eh? My dad still runs that other one you visited a few times
  6. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Wow my old friend how have you been doing Jeff?
  7. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Is this about a literal battle on a city God loves or is the city God loves the church which is surrounded by the world because the world has declared war on it? The church is the bride of Christ the new Jerusalem.
  8. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Satan is a spiritual being whos binding is spiritual not physical. Thinking that satan who is a spiritual being requires literal chains and a sealed pit to restrain him makes no sense. Jesus reigns because He is God not because satan is bound this would give satan way too much credit. Do you...
  9. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    This is a classic case of premils not understanding the amil view of what the binding of satan is. How can premils discuss when they don't understand what the amil view is?
  10. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Your mixing up great tribulations as there are many (on the world, on Israel ) but only one "The great tribulation" mentioned in Revelation 7:14 which is world wide and on the church. What made the great tribulation of Israel in 70AD the worst that ever will be isn't just about carnage its...
  11. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Its just saying that there hasn't been a tribulation like that since the beginning of the world. There are many great tribulations but only one "The great tribulation" which is on the church world wide. It started on the day Stephen was killed and is still happing today Revelation 7:9-14 The...
  12. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It doesn't say that it was on the world its a great tribulation which was the tribulation of the siege on Jerusalem. In all 1.2 million perished and only 97000 survived. If it went on longer all would of perrished.
  13. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Because the context was the destruction of Jerusalem
  14. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    The time cut short was the siege on Jerusalem, if it wasn’t cut short all of Jerusalem would of perished
  15. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Thats not what I am saying i'm saying that satan is bound spiritually by deceiving people by the power of the gospel. He can't deceive those who choose to receive the message of the gospel
  16. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    Because most people think thats what revelation 20 says
  17. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    It only says that he is bound by deceiving the nations thus the gospel reveals Jesus to all nations. Satan is bound by deceiving the nations since the day of Pentecost Who was in Jerusalem on the day of Pentecost? Acts 2:5 5 Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every...
  18. Marty fox

    22 major reasons to abandon the Premil doctrine

    I don’t think so either but it definitely doesn’t always mean Israel but at times it did because it was the world that they knew. Just like the times Paul used the term whole world or other times it just meant the known world.