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So the angels and the whole universe would serve him bowing and scraping out of fear? Sound like a pagan deity!

I think it was paid to us. Gods character was so obscured by the evil one, it was only by giving his life ie, tortured to death without pay back but rather forgiving his torturers so that it was possible for people to see the character of God. If it was death that God required he could have...

Death was promised if they ate the forbidden fruit. it wasn't a demand. I don't see where God demanded anything from Adam Have you considered that your idea of Justice is an overlay on God?

who is justice?

then agree with me!

that's an easy one, I'm always right! o_O

no immediate scripture however, I think it took God to give his life to convince us, if not the inhabitants of the Universe, the nature of his love. In other words, he paid the ransom to us.

Who did Jesus Die a Ransom for? I would ask, who did he pay it to?

ah oh....this is a bad move. We are hopefully not into gossip generation!

profitable? ..or do you mean they make a lot of money?

'normal' is the consensus of the majority.....and the majority are sick.

does that make him a dictator....'my way or the highway' ?

What makes a doctrine false? an incorrect picture of God insisted on spawns every error

You obviously are happy with a God who kills. The one I know who favours that view is Satan and he has much success. Don't all participants in wars pray to God to help them win? They have no problems killing the opposition because their God justifies killing also. Joining their ranks only...

We are all infected with the process of dying. God doesn't need to kill us. Instead, he offers life to all.

Certain ones have rejected The Truth.....the natural consequence is death. Life does not exist apart from God. Deliberate sustained distancing from life/ truth results in death. Death is not an arbitrary judgement....it is a consequential fact

I have come to slowly learn that change is related to how I see. I have discovered that from taking note of what Jesus emphasised. For the most part, the closer I get to him the stronger or the most obvious my sin appears to myself and I need to do battle with the accusing voices.....and that...

Not intending to distract but I would like to throw in these thoughts regarding the use of words and mental pictures they invoke. The words 'paid' and 'penalty'; it appears they are connected in how we think about them. How are we to process these in our understanding? Here are some options...

@Phoneman777 Have you ever wondered if Moses had an opinion on the Trinity or what Noah thought about baptism? It probably doesn't matter but what it does do is allow reflection on a perspective outside of what is deemed right and acceptable.