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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You are making big claims that there are multiple Scriptures to support your opinion of Revelation 20. Where are they? You have to support your claims. You claiming it is not enough. Can you give me a clear second coming passage that describe mortal or wicked survivors?
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    Really? Maybe you would be so kind to quote these in full. It's not mentioned anywhere apart from Revelation 20. Please quote any reference that teaches a thousand years after the second coming? Show me one second coming passage that actually teaches survivors from Christ's glorious return? I do...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    (1) All the detail around the sounding of the 7th trumpet is final and climactic. (2) Check out all the other end-time trumpet passages and the final blast ushers in the sudden and climactic appearing of Christ. (3) The operation of the 7th angel in the text is not one day, but days preceding...
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    But there are no mortals or wicked left after this saints are rescued to enter into your millennium kingdom. They're all destroyed at the second coming.
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    But the millennium is overrun by billions of wicked.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What? Because you say so?
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    He has no Scripture to bring. All he has is insults and avoidance. He loves to wallow in the muck. We just have to keep presenting the sacred text. He cannot deal with that.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The Bible teaches: when Jesus comes that is the end! · There is nowhere in Scripture that talk about "resurrection days" (plural). · There is nowhere in Scripture that talk about "judgement days" (plural). Acts 17:30-31 reinforces my supposition: “And the times of this ignorance God...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is the only way you can question Posttrib - with misrepresentations. The reality is: our focus is Christ. We are looking for Him. It matters little with who or what antichrist is. Whatever trials we have to face, God is with us.
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    No you do not. All you do is avoid scripture. Show us your biblical support for a rapture of the Church followed by a tribulation period followed by 3rd coming?
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    But time is over at the last trump. The wicked are destroyed. The earth is liberated from the bondage of corruption – death and decay. Why would we need a future millennium? Where is this taught elsewhere in Scripture?
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    All they have is insults and avoidance throughout each thread. They are yet to bring to the table and prove one single passage they have teaches Pretrib. When their claims are challenged their doctrine goes up in a puff of smoke.
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You have a habit of describing yourself in every one of your posts. You must be so miserable!
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    LOL. How about actually quoting them and exegeting them. All we have is your opinions. That's because your beliefs are not in the Word of God. They must be taught by your teachers.
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    When are the dead and living in Christ caught up to the Lord?

    You are describing yourself! You're unable to refute any of his arguments. All you have is petty name-calling.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    It is impossible to engage with you (and other Pretribbers) because you refuse to address the rebuttals of others that challenge your paradigm. Your short evasive flyby soundbites do not cut it. I refer you back to my detailed avoided post that negates Pretrib. Compare the color-coding...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    There are 2 great tribs in Scripture. There is that which Israel went through in AD70 when God punished them for their rebellion. There is that which the Church has endured for 2000 years as Satan tries to thwart the Gospel advance.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No Pretribbers need "to learn the difference between the great tribulation and the wrath of God." There is a big difference between the wrath of God against the wicked and the wrath of Satan against God’s people.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I never said different. I said the 7 vials and 7 trumpets are parallel recaps to the 7 seals. They all conclude at the one and only future coming of Christ.