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  1. Grailhunter

    DO WE NEED MESSIANIC PROPHECIES?

    What I did not say.... I did not say that there is nothing to learn from the Old Testament. I did not say that most of it is not accurate, they are finding proof of it accuracy all the time. But what I presented is accurate and it is common knowledge ....you can look it up yourself. The Old...
  2. Grailhunter

    DO WE NEED MESSIANIC PROPHECIES?

    In college there were a lot of studies on Messianic prophecies. I heard them all and all the different interpretations. Some of them pretty good. I am not saying there were not Messianic prophecies but the prophecies of the Old Testament foretold of a human warlord king Messiah. And that was...
  3. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    This is cool... I do not have to worry at beating you in a debate.....you defeat yourself.
  4. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Psalm 2:7 ? Speaking of King David and appointed kings in general. Look at in context of Psalm chapter 2 instead of cherry picking. At this point the Messiah was to be a human warlord king. When did Jesus become the Son of God with Power? When He impregnated Miriam. You have a wild twisted...
  5. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Pay attention.... I said.....Trying to mix their concepts does not always work. He does not offer Heaven in the NT..... I am almost scared to ask.... You do not believe Heaven is a reward for the saved?
  6. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Psalm is Old Testament. Trying to mix their concepts does not always work. God did not offer Heaven to those in the Old Testament and it was thought if you did right God would extend your days.
  7. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    If you could understand scripture....IF....that would be the real miracle. Yeshua was is a God in human form hence God-man.
  8. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    You so funny. I like 1st Timothy 2:5 but it has nothing to do with this topic. But the topic of Yeshua and light is a topic on its own. Think again grasshopper.
  9. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    No. God (Yahweh) so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son (Yeshua) Yahweh impregnated Miriam and she delivered a God-man. Christ explains the oneness concept....Yahweh in Yeshua....Yeshua in us and us in Yeshua. The body of Christ and the family of God. Manifest is abstract and if...
  10. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    He asked life of You, You gave it to him, Length of days forever and ever. Psalm 21:4 This is referring to King David. For just as the Father has life in Himself, even so He gave to the Son also to have life in Himself; John 5:26 John is pointing out the divine nature of the life in the...
  11. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. John 1:14 NASB The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father...
  12. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    A unique form of math.... Yahweh + Yeshua + Holy Spirit = 0
  13. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    1 Cr 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. This refers to God the Father AND the Lord Jesus Christ....there are a lot of the AND type verses. To be fair I want to make one thing...
  14. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    I am sure you can count. Enough ands and gave
  15. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Like I said Yeshua explained the oneness concept and we are included in it.... Speaking to God the Father (He is not talking to Himself) Yeshua says this about the concept of one...John 17:22 “And the glory which to them; that they may be one just as We are one.” Because Yeshua says “just as”...
  16. Grailhunter

    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Before Me no god was formed, and after Me none will come