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I like what you said above: " Farmers "work out" the land, not in order to get the land, but to develop the land they already have. The Greek verb rendered "work out" means "to continually work to bring something to completion or fruition." Great analogy! The farmer already has the land. He...

If the above were all correct,,,why would Paul even MENTION working out your salvation? Why would there be ANY warnings in the NT? If you want to be IN CHRIST....you're going to have to obey Christ. If you obey Christ, you will be doing many good works. And, yes, you have obtained perfect...

No wonder you believe as you do. You went from one extreme to the other. What I find interesting about your post is that the CC doesn't do any teaching... so I can't imagine WHY you felt this way. Did a priest teach you this? Did you do some kind of bible study where you were taught this? The...

Calm down GracePeace! Take a break. You don't seem to understand my point or even what Lizbeth is saying. No problem. See you next time around.

I tend to agree that the physical birth makes the most sense. In verse John 3:6 Jesus says. What is born of flesh is flesh. What is born of spirit is spirit. This would seem to point to natural birth and the fact that we must be born 2X. I don't know how being baptized makes us be born...

Hi ScottA Yes. What you've posted is how I understood John 3:5 when I first began to study scripture many years ago. But baptism is also beginning to make sense. Nicodemus' reply seems, to me, to indicate water of natural child birth when he asks Jesus how he could go back into the womb again...

Thanks for posting the above, but it just confirms what I believe. The dogmas about Mary came about because of what the ECFs wrote about her, and I'd include James' Protoevangelium, not really because Mary was compared to Eve. Mary was compared to Eve, IOW, but I wouldn't say that THIS is why...

I get pretty frustrated reading some that seem to be saying that obedience is not necessary, only faith is necessary. This brings to really bad theology...so a rest every now and then is good. Also, yes, make a trip. So many beautiful things to see here. It would take a lot of time....see the...

Yes. I'm sure there's more to Peter walking on the water....which is just plainly understood as keeping our eyes on Jesus and we will not drown. When is your book going to be available? I'm sure there'll be a lot of this in there. So are you saying the water in John 3:5 is the Law, or as some...

The Iranian people are against this government. But I also think that they've been oppressed for so long that they don't really know how to even protest anymore. Fear of the government might surely also have something to do with this. If the ayatollah fell tomorrow...they'd be very happy. If...

I've never heard it said that Mary is without sin because Eve was without sin.

Agreed. We seem to all agree on this. Food for thought. Thanks!

I posted this in my post no. 34: @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ All Christians believe Mary was a virgin that gave birth. Just like Paul is speaking of presenting believers as bethrothed as a pure virgin. This is what Irenaeus said: “Thus, the knot of Eve’s disobedience was loosed by...

Yes, I DO agree that Mary can be a good example for us...in many ways. How she accepted the task God gave to her. How she took care of her family. How she was a humble person. She was respected by Jesus and was probably a strong mother...but not over-bearing. I shudder to think what she felt...

Could we define OATH? It's not a matter of tradition... it's a matter of what is believed about oaths in Christianity. You should post something that speaks against it that can easily be understood. If Jesus meant what it sounds like He meant, then Paul was wrong in taking oaths: Romans 1:9 9...

I agree. So when Jesus sent out the 12 in Matthew 28:19 - the great commission - and He said to baptize in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, what did He mean? I have to disagree on one point. You said that 1 Cor 1:2 Paul is saying that the SAINTS are babes. What does saint...

Good question. Here's why: In John 3:4, after being told that a person must be born AGAIN.... he asks Jesus how a man can be born when he is old... how a man can return to the womb and be born. See also verse 6...what is born of the flesh is flesh...what is born of spirit is spirit. When I...

Yes Lizbeth. You did misunderstand me. No harm done. I did say at the beginning that I'm not familiar with all this and am reading along basically to learn something new. Can't really add too much, but I'm thinking !! :blush:

I understand that this is not an easy teaching. I learned that a Covenant is more than a contract. I learned that an oath is more than a promise. If Christians take oaths, it must mean that it's permitted. When two get married, they take an oath in the presence of God. What makes it be an oath...

So now you need to explain what the Baptism of the Holy Spirit is. Is it the same as water baptism? Does it happen at a different time than water baptism?