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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is talking about what happened after AD70. The Gospel went out to the nations.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Why all the ad hominem?
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    This is symbolically speaking about the First Advent where the Gospel went out to noth the Jews and Gentiles.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    MORE AVOIDANCE. Your doctrine is messed up.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No one is welcome to gaslight, name-call or derail this thread, or any other. You are guilty of all of the above. You should know better.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Wow! So, opposing Pretrib is now having a "Carnal Mind"? Obviously Pretrib is bereft of any rebuttals to the Op. I will take your petty name-calling as a sign of surrender from the your camp. Who said that we are going to suffer wrath? Where is your evidence? Where are your quotes? You have...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    If you have nothing of any profit or our unable to address the Op can you please excuse yourself from this thread? Name calling is no welcome.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You are clearly avoiding. Where in I Thessalonians 4:15-5:51 does it say "Jesus comes down to the ground with his followers"? Where in I Thessalonians 4:15-5:51 does it say "Jesus makes war against Israel's enemies"? Where in I Thessalonians 4:15-5:51 does it a trib or any length of tribulation...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I did not say that. I do not believe that. There are many Posttrib Premillers out there.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    LOL. Because you have to. You have nothing. You promote error. Your doctrine has been officially exposed. Checkmate!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Stop your lies. You do not get it do you? When Pretribbers try to speak on behalf of Posttribs they tend to misrepresent. We can speak ably for ourselves: we definitely do not need you to twist what we believe. Stop talking on our behalf. You just avoided the obvious. 1. Where is a tribulation...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Exactly. That is what we have to deal with on here.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    No it does not. You are clearly avoiding. Where in I Thessalonians 4:15-5:51 does it say "Jesus comes down to the ground with his followers"? Where in I Thessalonians 4:15-5:51 does it say "Jesus makes war against Israel's enemies"? Where in I Thessalonians 4:15-5:51 does it a trib or any...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Brilliant!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    They think, that if they claim a thing that makes it a fact. That is how foolish their doctrine is. They cannot carry through with hard Scripture. It is man's foolish speculations.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    What is your theology then? Forget about the seven year tribulation, you can insert a tribulation period of your own choosing. And show me this in the text. It is you that is claiming this. I am just exposing the error of it.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I will repeat: it is very simple what this is saying to the unindoctrinated mind. You are presenting a whole load of Pretrib jargon that you have been taught that is not in the passage. That is why you cannot quote it. If it was there you would quote it. Let us cut through all the taught error...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I think he lives in denial that anyone could in anyway disagree with him or his charts. That is pride!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I will delete. I skim his posts. Added: deleted!
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Your founder of yout beliefs is the Jesuit Manuel de Lacunza who functioned under the assumed name of Rabbi Ben-Ezra as a "converted Jew". The book was finished in 1790, and then circulated in manuscript form before it was published at Cadiz, Spain, in 1812. This was during the time of Cortez in...
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